In the past weeks I have cleaned up the interwikis in the template namespace on the Dutch Wikipedia. What I would like to know where is on what templates there are stille local interwikis present. Can anyone do a query/... to help me find that answer?
Thanks!
Romaine
Heya folks :)
Have a look at what happened around Wikidata this week:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_05_31
(Spoiler: We're getting closer to the fix for the Wikidata bug that
currently has the most votes in bugzilla \o/)
Cheers
Lydia
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Good to know:
* The Dutch Wikipedia had on its own more than 14.000 interwikiconflicts. I have created weeks ago on nl-wiki a project page where all those interwiki conflicts are mentioned and users started to clean up those conflicts. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interwikiconflicten_oplossen
Thanks to a botowner I was able to have such list, but this should have been made easy with a tool! + for every Wikipedia!
* Besides interwikiconflicts there are also a lot of pages on which users added one interwiki with the creation of the page, but after years it appears that no bot has ever put the interwiki to that page on the other language version + if there were interwikis on that page in another language that those interwikis wern't placed on the newly created page by a bot.
* I also notice that if interwikis were connected between pages on several Wikipedias, that not on every language variant all interwikis had been placed by bot, but only some of them...
This has as result that with the moving of interwikis from the local articles to Wikidata, that if the bot is focussed on a certain project - which does not have all the interwikis - the bot also doesn't move all the interwikis from pages in another language but only moved the ones which were there on the focus project.
* A lot of bots have/had difficulties with synonyms of namespaces. On other language versions of Wikipedia, the template namespace for example has besides the local name also the generic "Template" name. If someone added an interwiki with the non-local namespace, the bots have ignored them. This also counted for changes in the namespace name on a wiki.
* I almost fully cleaned the template namespace from many left interwikis. I think I will continue with the category namespace next. I noticed that users from other Wikipedias also want to clean up their articles and other namespaces from local interwiki's, but they miss the tools!
* On a lot of projects the templates for infoboxes and others have sub pages like /doc where interwikis are added. Mostly the interwikis are already on Wikidata, but still are the interwikis also local on the /doc page. Users on various projects need a tool to know where this is the case and/or a bot is needed which is able to remove all these interwikis from these subpages if the core page already has these interwikis on Wikidata.
* On a lot of projects there are permanently projected pages which have interwikis on them. These should also be removed from these pages and moved to Wikidata. The local communities need a tool to know which projected pages still have interwikis that can be removed from these pages.
* I also notice that a lot of island groups of interwikis are on Wikidata. An island group of interwikis means that a certain subject has two items on Wikidata (with two groups of interwikis) while it should have only one item. We need a tool which can suggest which two items may be the same.
* Also many pages do not have any interwikis, nor locally, nor in Wikidata, while there are articles about that same subject in other languages. Communities need tools to detect those articles to be able to connect those pages to those on other language Wikipedias.
** Some years ago we had a user who had created a tool which suggested for categories a possible interwiki, if the category was like Category:<subject in country>. What the tool did was, it checked the interwikis of the categories the category was in, compared the names, checked for the existing of that category and then suggested it to the user who had to check and decide.
Hack on one of these...
Let us complete the first phase properly please.
Romaine
Heya folks :)
We just enabled the time datatype \o/ This means it is now possible to
create properties that can be used to indicate when something
happened. A lot of time-related properties are already proposed
(http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal) and should
be created soon. It'll then for example be possible to indicate that
Curiosity (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48485) was sent on its way to
Mars on November 26, 2011. It'll of course also be possible to use
this as a qualifier to indicate when a certain statement was valid for
example. As usual please let me know about any issues you're seeing
after this update.
As many of you have asked me what comes next here's a quick overview:
We'll be working on more datatypes. Geocoordinate, number, url,
monolingual text, multilingual text and numbers with units are left.
Geocoordinate is being worked on right now. Then ordering of
statements is planned and then ranks (to indicate that a statement is
deprecated or preferred). In parallel to all this queries (phase 3
basically) are being worked on.
Cheers
Lydia
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Heya folks :)
I am super excited! Wikimedia has accepted 3 excellent students to
work on Wikidata as part of GSoC this year. They'll be working on
language fallbacks, an entity suggester and mobilizing Wikidata.
Another student has been accepted by DBpedia to work on Wikidata and
DBPedia. Crowdsourcing Biology has accepted a student to work on
converting Gene Wiki Bot to work with Wikidata. So there is lot's of
Wikidata goodness coming this summer.
Please give them a warm welcome. I am sure they'll say hi here soon
and keep you updated on their work.
Cheers
Lydia
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Heya folks :)
Here's this week's weekly summary for you:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_05_24
Sorry it's a day late today. We've been busy at the pretty awesome
hackathon in Amsterdam.
Cheers
Lydia
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Heya folks :)
I just wanted to let you know that it is now possible to include data
from Wikidata using the property's label (not just the ID). So in
essence this means that you can for example use
{{#property:continent}} instead of {{#property:P30}} if you don't want
to remember the ID there. Both of these would return "Europe" if used
in the article about Spain for example.
In related good news: The time datatype has progressed very well and
we expect to be able to deploy it next week. However it'd be awesome
if you could help test it on the demo system
(http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki) to make sure we have not
missed any major issues. Help with translations on translatewiki.net
would also be most excellent.
Cheers
Lydia
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I took a look at that and was concerned about the plan to release a future
data dump in the RDF/XML format.
Most people these days think of RDF/XML as obsolete and the future is in the
Turtle family of languages. RDF/XML has various problems: it can't express
all legal RDF statements and it is also difficult for humans and computers
to parse. If you look at an N-Triples file you see triples, but you often
have to think hard to see the triples in an RDF/XML file.
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From: Jeremy Baron
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:08 AM
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata dumps
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Emir Muñoz <emir.munoz(a)deri.org> wrote:
> Any idea if there is already some RDF dump of Wikidata or when will be
> available for download?
Please take a look at
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2013-May/002211.html
and you can subscribe to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/47714
(I think that's all still accurate. someone will correct me if not)
-Jeremy
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Not to stick beans up my nose, but does this mean that if I change P30's English label to something other than "continent", #property:content will break in all templates using it?
I think for simple testing uses the label will be fine, but since it can change, for template usage it seems safer to just refer to it by it's ID.
-- Legoktm
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de<mailto:lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de>> wrote:
Heya folks :)
I just wanted to let you know that it is now possible to include data
from Wikidata using the property's label (not just the ID). So in
essence this means that you can for example use
{{#property:continent}} instead of {{#property:P30}} if you don't want
to remember the ID there. Both of these would return "Europe" if used
in the article about Spain for example.
In related good news: The time datatype has progressed very well and
we expect to be able to deploy it next week. However it'd be awesome
if you could help test it on the demo system
(http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki) to make sure we have not
missed any major issues. Help with translations on translatewiki.net<http://translatewiki.net>
would also be most excellent.
Cheers
Lydia
--
Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher
Community Communications for Technical Projects
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
Obentrautstr. 72
10963 Berlin
www.wikimedia.de<http://www.wikimedia.de>
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
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