[Wikidata-l] data inclusion by lables is now available on Wikipedias and time datatype is getting closer - Wikidata

legoktm

23 May 23 May

12:38 a.m.

Not to stick beans up my nose, but does this mean that if I change P30's English label to something other than "continent", #property:content will break in all templates using it? I think for simple testing uses the label will be fine, but since it can change, for template usage it seems safer to just refer to it by it's ID. -- Legoktm On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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Heya folks :) I just wanted to let you know that it is now possible to include data from Wikidata using the property's label (not just the ID). So in essence this means that you can for example use {{#property:continent}} instead of {{#property:P30}} if you don't want to remember the ID there. Both of these would return "Europe" if used in the article about Spain for example. In related good news: The time datatype has progressed very well and we expect to be able to deploy it next week. However it'd be awesome if you could help test it on the demo system (http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki) to make sure we have not missed any major issues. Help with translations on translatewiki.net would also be most excellent. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Sven

5:36 a.m.

New subject: [Wikidata-l] data inclusion by lables is now available on Wikipedias and time datatype is getting closer

It might be a good idea to develop a bot that automatically converts {{#Property:Continent}} to {{#Property:P30}} and such. Best of both worlds: no need to memorize the numbers, no need to compromise stability. Sven On May 22, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM, legoktm <legoktm.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Not to stick beans up my nose, but does this mean that if I change P30's English label to something other than "continent", #property:content will break in all templates using it?

Basically yes.

I think for simple testing uses the label will be fine, but since it can change, for template usage it seems safer to just refer to it by it's ID.

Yes it is a trade-off that we'll all need to figure out. And yes people should be more careful about changing property labels now. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Jiang BIAN

6:43 a.m.

I'm wondering what will happen if the label of a property is changed, e.g. The wiki article Foo is Spain is on {{#property:continent}}. And someone changed "continent" to "earth continent". After the change, what will be rendered in article Foo? On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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Heya folks :) I just wanted to let you know that it is now possible to include data from Wikidata using the property's label (not just the ID). So in essence this means that you can for example use {{#property:continent}} instead of {{#property:P30}} if you don't want to remember the ID there. Both of these would return "Europe" if used in the article about Spain for example. In related good news: The time datatype has progressed very well and we expect to be able to deploy it next week. However it'd be awesome if you could help test it on the demo system (http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki) to make sure we have not missed any major issues. Help with translations on translatewiki.net would also be most excellent. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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Gerard Meijssen

23 May 23 May

8:39 a.m.

Hoi, How will it deal with disambiguation ? There are plenty of "reasonable" properties that can have different and multiple meanings. Also using properties means that an infobox or whatever cannot be reused on a different Wiki. Thanks, Gerard On 22 May 2013 23:58, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:

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Heya folks :) I just wanted to let you know that it is now possible to include data from Wikidata using the property's label (not just the ID). So in essence this means that you can for example use {{#property:continent}} instead of {{#property:P30}} if you don't want to remember the ID there. Both of these would return "Europe" if used in the article about Spain for example. In related good news: The time datatype has progressed very well and we expect to be able to deploy it next week. However it'd be awesome if you could help test it on the demo system (http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/wiki) to make sure we have not missed any major issues. Help with translations on translatewiki.net would also be most excellent. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Technical Projects Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

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