Hi Daniel,
Thank you for the information. There are still aspects of implementation
that are unclear to me, and perhaps for others as well. Please see below.
Best,
Jonathan
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Daniel Mietchen <
daniel.mietchen(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
this situation was actually discussed in detail when the policy was
drafted, and it is reflected in two parts of the policy:
- Under "C. Published Materials. Researchers will publish any output
in an Open Access outlet under a Free License.", it states
"If a work based on the project is accepted for publication in a peer
reviewed outlet that does not make its articles available online, free
of charge, and under free licenses, an electronic copy of the author’s
accepted manuscript will be submitted to a public and permanently
archived repository by the official date of publication, without any
embargo period, and released under a Free License." ==> This basically
means you can publish in closed-access journals, as long as you make a
pre- or postprint openly available.
Any pointers on what consistutes a pre-print? Perhaps Aaron Halfaker can
speak to this. I know he went through this dance with SAGE for the Rise and
Decline paper.
<https://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~halfak/publications/The_Rise_and_Decline/halfaker13rise-preprint.pdf>
- Under "2. Limited waiver", it states
"Specific waivers from the expectations above may be applied in
limited circumstances on a case-by-case basis. Researchers wanting a
waiver are required to submit to the Wikimedia Foundation, in writing,
a detailed explanation of why they require the waiver. The Wikimedia
Foundation will publicly post a summary of the request and its
response. "
Who at WMF should these waivers be submitted to? Who reviews and responds?
What are the consequences if the exemption is not granted?
This is also covered in the FAQ, part D, along with
limited funding
options (cf.
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Open_access_policy/FAQ ).
Cheers,
d.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Morgan <jmorgan(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Thanks, Sydney and Pine.
This is timely, as Resources is currently re-vamping their instructions
for
grant proposals (including research-focused
grants). So it's a good time
to
hammer out our policy and process here.
Max: if you're willing to ping me off-list and relate some of the
details of
your conversation, that will help me follow up on
the particular issue
you're facing right now.
I want this to be clear and easy for grantees going forward—if WMF is
funding research, we should be prepared to support the dissemination of
that
research in a way that aligns with our values. In
the future, I would
like
to see grantees budget anticipated OA fees into
their requests, and a
process for vetting this during the proposal review period.
I know there has been some conversation between Research and Resources
around this issue in the past, but I don't know if there were decisions
made... more likely I'll need to start it back up again. We're all still
working out the kinks in the OA policy (even staff researchers are
trying to
understand the ramifications for our work).
I'll make sure to notify this list when I learn more.
Jonathan
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Max,
>
> This issue was discussed in the context of a paper about Wikipedia
working
> with medical students in the classroom.
>
> See the talk page and endorsements for the discussion that led to the
> grant being approved. .
>
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/bluerasberry/open_access_release…
>
> Sydney
>
> Sydney Poore
> User:FloNight
> Wiki Project Med Foundation
> WikiWomen's User Group
> Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/sydney.e.poore
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> As you might know WMF has an Open Access Policy that requires all work
>> that they fund to be Open Access[1]. A strange consequence of this
policy,
>> that I recently ran into, is that it
requires researchers funded by
grants
>> to publish OA -- but without providing
any funding to do so. That is, I
>> recently completed an Individual Engagement Grant (IEG), part of whose
scope
>> was explicitly to write a paper about the
work[2], and when I wrote to
WMF
>> to acquire funds for OA publishing, they
confirmed that the paper was
under
>> the OA mandate but indicated that funds
were not available to pay for
OA
>> publishing.
>>
>> Has anyone else use WMF's Open Access Policy? What was your
experience?
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/WIGI:_Wikipedia_Gender_Index#Act…
Make a great day,
Max Klein ‽
http://notconfusing.com/
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