Hi all
I'm wondering if any thought has been given to rendering maps to SVG. I'm asking
that especially in the light of
<http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/07/svg-for-all-with-flash/> which might give
use in-browser display of SVG, and perhaps even interactive SVG. Using that with
OSM would be really cool!
Now, afaik Mapnik supports SVG rendering. But I suspect that interactive vector
maps would work differently from interactive pixel-based maps: you could scale
smoothly, could use much bigger tiles, and would use level-of-detail layers
instead of pre-scaled tiles...
Does somethign like that exist yet?
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Gerald A<geraldablists(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> And really, this server needs a better administrator than me. I'm only
>> doing it because I needed it to develop the SlippyMap extension &
>> related infrastructure and it seemed like nobody else could be found
>> to do it. But I'm not familiar enough with how to set such a box up
>> properly nor do I really have the interest since system administering
>> isn't a project I like doing in my spare time.
>
> I'm not sure what kind of help you need, but I'd be willing to assist. I've
> offered some assistance in the past, but I'm not sure what would be needed
> to get enough access to help in a meaningful way.
Basically someone else than me who has time and know how (which I
don't really have:) needs to take care of it.
I'll be away from the internet for most of August so if another admin
isn't found the box will be crippled for the near future.
Here's an update on the server status from Daniel, looks like we won't
be able to do anything with the servers until the end of the month.
Cassini (the osm-toolserver) is also down for what looks like until
the end of the month.
I'll be afk for almost all of august leading up to Wikimania so I the
things I need before that time I'm just going to set up on my own
somewhat more limited colo server.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Subject: OSM server status
To: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab(a)gmail.com>, Sven Anders
<sven(a)anders-hamburg.de>, Kolossos <tim.alder(a)s2002.tu-chemnitz.de>
Hi all
Jens just told me that we'll have to wait some more until the OSM boxes are up.
There is currently no console access, so Jens can't set up the OS. This will
have to wait until Mark is back, it seems. Mark is graduating, so we only have
someone for emergencies at the colo. Any hardware setup has to wait until he is
back, which will be at the end of july.
Here's a test wiki with the static/dynamic maps being served by cassini:
http://u.nix.is/wiki/index.php/Maptest
That wiki supports the locale= parameter to the extension so you can
play around with different languages:
(see this bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19961 )
Thanks to a recent patch to the export script when you embed a static
map now the static exporter should inject requests into the tile
rendering queue for the area being viewed on the map (actually a
slightly larger one):
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/53815
So once someone embeds a static map clicking it to get the dynamic
version should Just Work(TM).
Hello,
perhaps a stupid question but how we want to organise the tools from
developers on cassini?
If I understand it right we have the same home-directory than in the
rest of the cluster.
So if I have a tool in my home/public_html it should run on
http://cassini.toolserver.org/~kolossos/...
But this doesn't work in the moment. I tested it with my existing
scripts. So where should a developer save the scripts?
Alternative we should support projects with more than one developer like
we do on stable server, but it should be as
simple as possible.
So what is the plan?
Greetings Kolossos
2009/7/21, ?var Arnfj?r? Bjarmason <avarab(a)gmail.com>:
>> Speaking of which why don't we have any users yet? Is everything
>> stalled on getting the DB machine up or are there some tools that can
>> just use Cassini as-is? How is Unix-account approval being managed
>> (who's taking care of that?).
>>
>>
>>
For more users on the machine perhaps we should write a new message on
the different mailing lists
that it now starts. The last message from us was at the beginning of april.
I can post to the german OSM list and can contact some people directly
which are geo interested. Some of them have a already a toolserver account.
Perhaps somebody else can post to the english list.
On jira is no OSM-Toolserver account request pending [1],[2]. That's the
start point, than I can support the admins to decide about such a request.
Also if we have no database-server in the moment it could be only good
for the setup of cassini if we know what people wants to do.
Greetings Kolossos
[1]
https://jira.toolserver.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&mode=hide…
[2]https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Account_approval_process
Here is an wikipedia xml dump parser to osm changeset.
here is the code
https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+junk/openstreetmap-wikipedia
I have taken and modified code from
coast_import gary68 revert
The test data is included.
Goal is to extract all features from kosovo and to put them in open streetmap.
if we can find a server I will also host our own server for OSM data
for kosovo.
thanks
mike
please note, we are working on a FLOSS conference on the 29/30 of
august, all invited.
http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
Here is an wikipedia xml dump parser to osm changeset.
here is the code
https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+junk/openstreetmap-wikipedia
I have taken and modified code from
coast_import gary68 revert
The test data is included.
Goal is to extract all features from kosovo and to put them in open streetmap.
if we can find a server I will also host our own server for OSM data
for kosovo.
thanks
mike
please note, we are working on a FLOSS conference on the 29/30 of
august, all invited.
http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
Hi there, it looks like our talks for Wikimania 2009 have been scheduled:
http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule#Day_2
I won't be around for much of August so I'm trying to do all the work
of working on software / my talk now before the end of July.
So before that time I'd like to coordinate with you two (and other
people?) how we're going to:
* Do this pre-conference OSM workshop that we've signed up for
* Split up our talks so that we make sure we don't have overlapping
subjects and don't miss anything important.
Basically what I'm interested in presenting for the latter is what I
blathered about at the Wikimania hacking days:
* A technical overview of how this OSM on Wikimedia thing works, i.e.
Planet.osm -> Database -> Rendering -> Embedding in MediaWiki
* Demos on using the extension for things I'm working on that'll
(hopefully!) be finished at that time, e.g.:
* Static map generation: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19654
* Multilingular map generation:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19668 (I'm going to do
this by e.g. showing the West Bank in both Hebrew & Arabic)
* Whatever else fits into that general criteria that I'm forgetting
when writing this hurried e-mail
For the latter it would be nice to:
* Get in contact with that local Argentinian
OpenStreetMapper/Wikipedian that someone mentioned and get him in on
this
* Find out what our audience will be, what are they likely to want?
* Schedule some sort of outline for what we want to do .*I* can
blather about GPS collecting -> editing -> map generation or whatever
and answer questions, but it would be nice if we had something more
focused than that :)
Hello there, long time no see:)
In the last few days I've been working on the project of getting
OpenStreetMap onto Wikimedia as outlined here:
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/04/openstreetmap-maps-will-be-added-to-w…
Unfortunately I wasn't able to hack on it sooner (but of course other
people have been working on it too!) and the project has been somewhat
held up by the WM-DE servers being delayed.
Anyway, one thing standing between us and world domination is
rendering those static maps, I'm going to implement this but first I'd
like to get comments on *how* we'd like to do it, so I've written a
plan for doing it:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SlippyMap/Static_map_generation
Would generating static images like that be fine for Wikimedia
purposes or is this totally crazy? I think it would be just fine, but
then again I did write the Cite extension so take that with a grain of
salt:)
And to spam a bit: if getting pretty OpenStreetMap maps deployed is
something you'd like to happen sooner than later head over to our
development page:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SlippyMap#Development
I'm working off the Bugzilla tasklist which should be an approximate
indication of stuff that needs to be done.