On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Rich<richlv(a)nakts.net> wrote:
> hi. you're probably swamped with various requests, so take your time with
> response :)
> i was very curious when i saw your work on localisted renders at
> it motivated me to add quite some data to osm across the worls for my
> are you planning to update these renders ? that would allow to see progress
> and increase interest in others as well.
(I'm currently at Wikimania 2009)
Yes, we're planning on keeping them up-to-the-minute eventually. The
system on cassini was/is just a prototype pending the setting up of
the real database/rendering/tile servers.
We've just got access to those servers and hopefully we'll set them up
properly with automatic updates soon. But I can't promise anything.
But hopefully we'll get it properly running in September.
Hello OSM folks
For the integration of osm into the wikipedia there will be localized
maps in all languages that have their own wikipedia. The problem is,
that a lot of countries are not translated yet.
To get an overview over the status and make translating those countries
more easy, I created a tool that can be found at
I'd like to encourage everyone to spend some time making translated maps
better. Comments welcome!
Quick note --
It seems there's been a long serious of miscommunications and dropped
handling of access & software setup for the mapping servers, which has
led to some very unhappy people. :(
I want to make sure we get this sorted out in the next few days... for
the moment we're collecting notes on what actually still needs to get
set up here:
Once we've got that down to a clear checklist and know who needs to do
what I can bash people on the head until it happens. :)
I have added some thought on the overall solution architecture - most
importantly, I have added some questions and decision we should think of
before fully deploying servers (being that WMF or Toolserver's):
I think it is important to think "out of the box" here and think about
those issues leaving low-level discussions (cassini vs. ptolemy vs.
whatever) aside for a while.
One of the important steps would be getting stats on the current geohack
and WMA usage.
<< Marcin Cieslak // saper(a)saper.info >>
Following Brion's note on server setup, I think we should revisit some
architectural stuff. I am not sure if we will get stuff right the first
time but we should try:
I would be grateful if you could review this:
From there we can try to set priorities, put together architecture and
finally start installing stuff.
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Sorry if I missed it, I'm new to the maps-integration (how long can i
use this excuse?). Is there any plan of having a (more or less) complete
osm-database as described in  in the toolserver cluster?
The "current" part would be needed to experiment with routing,
the "history" part could be used for statistical analysis,
the "raw" part could be used for quality assurance (e.g. ways without a
gps-track). The "user" and "diary" parts are not so useful as they got
not relation to the geo-data.
"current" may be filled from a planet.osm. I don't know how the
"history" or the "raw" part could be retrieved and if they are can be
kept up2date with the diffs.
to make sure that CVE-2009-2692 is fixed after the kernel-update, I rebooted
all linux-servers (that's nightshade, wolfsbane and cassini) tonight.
The downtime was fewer then 5 minutes.
I'm the author of
is afaik the first public tool on the new wikimedia toolserver. It's
really great to have those ressources that enables me to work with the
dataset of a complete planet -- this is sth. i couldn't do anywhere else.
But atm. the possibilities for new projects on cassini are not that
good, because what we have now is an outdated a snapshot of the world.
This is not enough for most interactive tools.
So what are the next steps?
Tim Alder said he'd like to wait for the main db-server (ptolemy) to set
up regular updates. Aude said thst the postgres-db on cassini needs some
changes configuration, including a better way of authentication. He also
filed a jira-ticket about getting sudo-access on cassini. 
So for now to me the main question is: when
will we get access to the main-db server.
If this will be the case soon, we could skip all work on cassini and do
it directly on the main-db.
When we exclude the postgres-setup, in my eyes cassini is already
finished and the next logical step would be getting the production
I'm new to this whole organizational stuff but I think i'm getting used
to it slowly :) So if i missed something important, please be gentle.