Hi folks! I am the Engineering Community Manager at the Wikimedia
Foundation, which means I'm a liaison for people who want to improve the
technical capabilities of our projects. I spoke with a few of you
offlist (including at Wikimania) about maps and Wikimedia. While I'm
still getting up to speed on the proposals and tools people have made, I
wanted to give you an update regarding what's happening with Wikimedia's
planned OpenStreetMap tileserver.
We know that we will set up a production tileserver. That is, Wikimedia
plans to have an OpenStreetMap tileserver, in production (that is, fully
supported by our Operations department and with uptime expectations
similar to those for our main sites). We need this not only for the
tools community but also for use in our official mobile apps. Brandon
Black is the contact for this. He is a member of the Operations team at
WMF. In order to set up a production-level tileserver, we will also need
a production OSM database, so he is working on figuring out how best to
grab that data from the official OSM database regularly (I am
Brandon has already started on the project of setting up the production
tileserver. I know that he will be posting regular updates at
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/OSM_Tileserver but he is still in
the investigation and architecture phase so he does not have a timeline
yet. I'm sorry, I know that is frustrating.
Very soon after we have the production tileserver running, we plan to
replicate that OSM database to Wikimedia Labs for use on Tool Labs, or
do similar SQL import magic. People using Labs will be able to draw
data directly from that replica, and will be able to grab tiles from the
production tileserver. I'm the contact on this but since Coren
(Marc-Andre Pelletier) is the domain expert on this particular bit of
database replication, please go ahead and include both of us on any
Engineering Community Manager
Hi folks - I'm new to the list. My en.Wikipedia user page has a potted
The OSM equivalent of Wikimania, State of the Map
<http://2013.stateofthemap.org>, is in Birmingham, England (my home
town), from 6-8 September, just under two weeks away (places are still
available!). I will be there, facilitating some of the sessions and
generally helping out. Are any of you coming? Should we have Wikipedia
On 08/26/2013 07:37 AM, Peter Gervai wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Cristian Consonni
> <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2013/8/25 Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com>:
>>> 2013/8/25 Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki(a)yahoo.com>:
>>>> Unfortunately I couldn't find any layer for Wikipedia on http://openstreetmap.org
> http://osm.org/ is an example renderer. OSM is the _database_. The
> information is in it, and there are several renderers showing various
> external content.
>> This year at Wikimania in Hong Kong there has been a "Wikimaps" panel,
>> where it was discussed the possibility to duplicate the OSM whole
>> stack to serve OpenStreetMap in Wikipedia. The bottom line for me was
> What should be noted, however, that we should:
> 1) avoid to duplicate anything which is done very well by OSMF (which
> is maintaining, operating and expanding OSM database), and
> 2) plan anything a way which helps OSM to get more user contribution,
> either through Notes or by direct editing (so we should make it easy
> for users to reach OSM edit fesatures over there.
> Btw see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia
Thanks to everyone who's been offering ideas and thoughts in this
thread! Could we move to maps-l (cc'd)?
I recently posted to maps-l about plans for the OSM tileserver that
Wikimedia is going to host:
Engineering Community Manager
This is a probing note to start discussing connecting geometries from the
Wikimaps project to the Wikimedia knowledge base.
If you are new to Wikimaps, have a look in
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps. We aim to bring old
maps to the Commons, georeference them and use for historical mapping in
the Open Historical Map environment.
Wikimaps has a preliminary workflow that can be tested, from Wikimedia
Commons to the Wikimaps Warper and further on to the iD editor in the Open
Historical Map sandbox. See
>From this point, we need to know how to advance. We would like to invite
you to discuss the options, and the properties for data concerning space,
time and change over time.
- Wikidata is ready as a structure to handle the cross-references of the
spatiotemporal data. Adding the geopolygon datatype is needed to complete
- We are hoping Wikimaps will be a necessary use and test case.
- We want to gather experiences from describing places over time, how to
handle uncertain or imprecise information. Also, from a mappers point of
view, how to interpret & express information that is stated on a map.
- We can create a "spatiotemporal data" task force in Wikidata
Are you interested in taking part in this discussion?
I am cross-posting this to the Wikimedia maps-l and the OpenStreetMap
Historic lists. Let's find a way to discuss together!
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Op 19-8-2013 18:46, Bastien schreef:
> Hi Maarten,
> Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> writes:
>> We still lack a very important tool for Wiki Loves Monuments in
>> September: A web based map to easily find monuments.
> I hacked this together:
I like the interface a lot. The items should have a bit more information
like at least the identifier, that's the main use case.
> It's only ~5000 random entries from your database (don't miss
> the ones in Antartica!)
> Does erfgoed's API reads a "country" and a "with-picture" parameter?
> If so, is it okay to load data directly by querying the API?
The database has the following fields
You can ask the api several things:
* sr<fieldname>=search a fieldname
* srwith<fieldname>=<boolean> to get only items where something is set
* srwithout<fieldname>=<boolean> to get only items where something is
You can get it in different formats etc, see
http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/api/api.php for a bit more info
> If so, I will add a form with a list of countries and two checkboxes
> for "Monuments with Pictures" and "Monuments without picture".
> I'll also center the map to the user's location.
We still lack a very important tool for Wiki Loves Monuments in
September: A web based map to easily find monuments.
We have the backend containing all the information: The monuments
database has 750.000+ items with geo information and this is accessible
as kml . We just need a web based map interface to wrap around this
and is easy to use.
Some initial requirements:
* Easy, probably only a filter to show monuments with or without a photo
* Works in all participating countries
* Centers on a location useful for the user (ask browser?)
* Is available in multiple languages (translatewiki?)
* Works in standard browsers without any add ons
I've seen plenty of local tools over the years, but no tool that could
just be used be everyone. Who can help out here?
FYI, the Limes Map is now integrated into a few articles copied into
the user namespace.
Barbara will do a talk about it at Wikimania, I can't be there in
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