Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's & Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism & BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
This is an awesome project :) I would be really interested in reading your feedback on the experiment, both from you and your students. I'm especially interested in knowing how you dealt with NPOV.
I think it is a nice idea to make them start on their sandbox pages, because it allows them to be familiar with Wiki syntax before dealing with the community. It is also nice to have them work on separate articles.
Good luck with your project and if you think one of the article is good enough, maybe I'll find time to translate it in French :)
Caroline
2012/6/4 Kissling, Elizabeth ekissling@ewu.edu
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's & Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism & BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students. -- Elizabeth A. Kissling, Ph.D. http://DrKissling.com Professor Department of Communication Studies Women's and Gender Studies Program Eastern Washington University Cheney, WA 99004-2409 _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
This is excellent. I look forward to seeing these articles go live and would be happy to help. Did you know about the Wikipedia Education Program http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Education_Program? It might be a little late in this course, but for future reference the United States Education Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USEDU connects US universities with Wikipedia editors that can assist with class projects.
Cheers, Gobonobohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:USEDU
On 06/04/2012 08:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism& BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
Thank you for sharing your work with the mailing list Elizabeth.
Do you have any sense, from your students, on if they will "stick around" as future editors? We often see a drop off with students from education programs, and I'd love to know if your students have interest in continuing their contributions, if there is anything that they think /would/ make them want to continue or what would deter them from continuous contributions.
I'm adding all of these articles to my watch list!
-Sarah
On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism& BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
Thanks for sharing this - it sounds like the exact type of thing that has most excited me about the education program. I just finished a miniature wikibreak, but now that I am back, I have watchlisted the relevant articles and will try to guide any problems that come up to productive resolution :).
I don't know what ambassador-type people we have up there, but I'd also encourage you to participate in the official education program in future terms.
---- User:Kevin Gorman
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for sharing your work with the mailing list Elizabeth.
Do you have any sense, from your students, on if they will "stick around" as future editors? We often see a drop off with students from education programs, and I'd love to know if your students have interest in continuing their contributions, if there is anything that they think would make them want to continue or what would deter them from continuous contributions.
I'm adding all of these articles to my watch list!
-Sarah
On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's & Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism & BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
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Just a quick word of warning... you should expect interference at the " Women's shelter" article from the highly active "men's rights" activists on Wikipedia. They have been pushing the point of view that women's shelters are discriminatory against men, that the women's shelter movement is part of a conspiracy to hide the "true statistics" about male victims of domestic violence, and that women's shelters are just scams to get government money, etc. If the students run into problems, just have them drop a message on the WikiProject Feminism talk page.
Ryan Kaldari
On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism& BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
Hi Ryan
thank you for your message explaining how you see the situation that might be coming
what does everyone think about opening an article about "Men's shelter"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_shelter ("Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Men's shelter in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.")
and use a few "male" user names to work on it seriously (there is quite a lot of facts to make known, I think), then see what happens
my2cents is that this would cost us not even three Guineas
any opinions? cheers Claudia
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:46 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote
Just a quick word of warning... you should expect interference at the " Women's shelter" article from the highly active "men's rights" activists on Wikipedia. They have been pushing the point of view that women's shelters are discriminatory against men, that the women's shelter movement is part of a conspiracy to hide the "true statistics" about male victims of domestic violence, and that women's shelters are just scams to get government money, etc. If the students run into problems, just have them drop a message on the WikiProject Feminism talk page.
Ryan Kaldari
On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you
experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of
WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia
audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my
students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
American women's firsts Feminism in Thailand Feminism& BDSM Metaformic theory Women's shelters Genderfuck Feminist pedagogy
Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
thanks & cheers, Claudia koltzenburg@w4w.net