I'd say if mens shelters are notable enough to warrant their own articles perhaps
that'd be best.
Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)
On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to put information about men's
shelters in the woman's shelter article, without violating civility standards?
From,
Emily
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM, <puppy(a)killerchihuahua.com> wrote:
Couldn't hurt, and would give a place to direct people who try to insert Men's
shelter info into the Women's shelter article.
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Subject: [Gendergap] Men's_shelter Re: New WikiProject Feminism
Articles from WSG students
From: koltzenburg(a)w4w.net
Date: Tue, June 05, 2012 12:09 am
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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Hi Ryan
thank you for your message explaining how you see the situation that might be coming
what does everyone think about opening an article about "Men's shelter"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_shelter ("Wikipedia does not have an article
with this exact name. Please
search for Men's shelter in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or
spellings.")
and use a few "male" user names to work on it seriously (there is quite a lot
of facts to make known, I
think), then see what happens
my2cents is that this would cost us not even three Guineas
any opinions?
cheers
Claudia
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:46 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote
Just a quick word of warning... you should expect
interference at the "
Women's shelter" article from the highly active "men's rights"
activists
on Wikipedia. They have been pushing the point of view that women's
shelters are discriminatory against men, that the women's shelter
movement is part of a conspiracy to hide the "true statistics" about
male victims of domestic violence, and that women's shelters are just
scams to get government money, etc. If the students run into problems,
just have them drop a message on the WikiProject Feminism talk page.
Ryan Kaldari
On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
> Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask
for help from some of you
experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women
to the project.
>
> I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior
capstone project, I've had a group of
WSG majors students working on WP
articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from
the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching,
writing, and
revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the
articles in class today (a
few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the
term).
>
> It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present
research for the Wikipedia
audience compared to an academic audience, and to make
feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and
more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors
tell them not to use it, so it
was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter
working on it. It's also been
very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup
and Wikipedia.
>
> Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold?
I'm not expecting my
students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've
watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any
group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will
need more help than
others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
>
>
> American women's firsts
> Feminism in Thailand
> Feminism& BDSM
> Metaformic theory
> Women's shelters
> Genderfuck
> Feminist pedagogy
>
> Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.
thanks & cheers,
Claudia
koltzenburg(a)w4w.net
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