I think it would be wise to NOT engage in the conversation about who
deserves respect and why/why not. I keep looking at the potential outcomes
for this conversation and see all the ways it could go poorly. :)
My recommendation is that we focus on behaving respectfully rather than
judging or questioning the judgement of others as worthy or not, including
behaving respectfully in the way we judge each other's recommendations.
Warm regards,
Gayle
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From: B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt>
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Why do you write in capitals letters?
_____
*B?ria Lima
**Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
On 8 May 2012 16:19, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay. Why DOESN'T Sarah deserve your respect?
> From,
> Emily
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:18 PM,
B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt
>wrote:
>> Obviously not from me, or we
would not having this talk.
>> _____
>> *B?ria Lima*
>>
>> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2012 16:02, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sarah has earned respect. Please give it.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:01 PM, B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> And who will make me Emily? How old are we that we need to have people
>>>> sitting on the corner?
>>>>
>>>> And authority and respect is not something that is there for miracle,
>>>> you need to earn it.
>>>> _____
>>>> *B?ria Lima*
>>>>
>>>> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>>>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2012 12:46, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You know what, Beria? At the very least, you will have to respect
>>>>> Sarahs' authority. You're going to have the respect the
authority of
every
>>>> moderator, male, female, or
other, and respect the right of
*everyone* to
>>> participate on this list.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:42 AM, B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, people like her are the only one i will respect to moderate
me.
>>>>> For obvious reasons, I will
not accept any moderation coming from
Sarah and
>>>>> I don't think that list
should be dominated by a men.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, if someone do more for women than Laura, who had the very idea
>>>>> of a Woman's Camp (WikiWomenCamp - who already got a daugther -
The
>>>>> AdaCamp) I don't know who should. The fact you like her or not
is
>>>>> irrelevant. (Will you remove Sarah or Sue based on that?)
>>>>> _____
>>>>> *B?ria Lima*
>>>>> *
>>>>> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de
ter
>>>> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
>>>> construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2012 10:52, Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 May 2012 14:42, B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still waiting for see someone else other than him on
moderation.
>>>>>>> Did you already invite Laura?
>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>> *B?ria Lima*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd suggest that Laura is possibly not a good moderator
candidate
>>>>>> given her extremely strong viewpoint; I'd be concerned she
would
moderate
>>>>>> posts, for example, on
the basis they came from a man, rather than
on
>>>>>> behavioural merits - or
at least that this would influence her
moderator
>>>>>>> actions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, her earlier posts on this thread IMO serve as an
example of
>>>>>>> divisive material/rants that would need moderator
attention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>
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