Couldn't hurt, and would give a place to direct people who try to insert Men's shelter info into the Women's shelter article.

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Subject: [Gendergap] Men's_shelter Re: New WikiProject Feminism
Articles from WSG students
From: koltzenburg@w4w.net
Date: Tue, June 05, 2012 12:09 am
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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Hi Ryan

thank you for your message explaining how you see the situation that might be coming

what does everyone think about opening an article about "Men's shelter"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_shelter ("Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please
search for Men's shelter in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.")

and use a few "male" user names to work on it seriously (there is quite a lot of facts to make known, I
think), then see what happens

my2cents is that this would cost us not even three Guineas

any opinions?
cheers
Claudia

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:12:46 -0700, Ryan Kaldari wrote
> Just a quick word of warning... you should expect interference at the "
> Women's shelter" article from the highly active "men's rights" activists
> on Wikipedia. They have been pushing the point of view that women's
> shelters are discriminatory against men, that the women's shelter
> movement is part of a conspiracy to hide the "true statistics" about
> male victims of domestic violence, and that women's shelters are just
> scams to get government money, etc. If the students run into problems,
> just have them drop a message on the WikiProject Feminism talk page.
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
> On 6/4/12 6:29 AM, Kissling, Elizabeth wrote:
> > Now that there's room in the discussion for a new topic :-), I'd like to ask for help from some of you
experienced Wikipedians in bringing a new group of women to the project.
> >
> > I'm a professor of Women's& Gender Studies, and for their senior capstone project, I've had a group of
WSG majors students working on WP articles for the WikiProject Feminism. They've selected articles from
the list of requested articles and stubs from WP:Feminism
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism), and have been researching, writing, and
revising in their sandbox pages for the last few weeks. We're planning to post the articles in class today (a
few make take a little longer, but this week for sure -- it's the last week of the term).
> >
> > It's been a wonderful experience for them, learning about how to present research for the Wikipedia
audience compared to an academic audience, and to make feminist ideas accessible to larger audience, and
more. It's given them a new appreciation of Wikipedia -- most of their professors tell them not to use it, so it
was a big shock the first day of class when I announced we'd spend the quarter working on it. It's also been
very challenging for many, especially the technical aspects of working with wiki markup and Wikipedia.
> >
> > Will those of you who volunteer in this area help shepherd them into the fold? I'm not expecting my
students to be treated with kid gloves, but we've watched a few edit wars, and they're nervous. As with any
group of students, some are stronger writers than others, and some of these pieces will need more help than
others. Here's the list of articles that will soon be added/updated:
> >
> >
> > American women's firsts
> > Feminism in Thailand
> > Feminism& BDSM
> > Metaformic theory
> > Women's shelters
> > Genderfuck
> > Feminist pedagogy
> >
> > Thank you for the work that you, and for any help you can provide to my students.


thanks & cheers,
Claudia
koltzenburg@w4w.net


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