Thanks Tom for articulating how maddening it is to discover that an event from which you had hoped to learn and in which you hoped to engage turns out to be ruined by this sort of unthinking. Thanks to Sarah for bringing Tom's words to our attention. By way of cheerful contrast, I share an experience wholly uplifting. While waiting in the queue the other day for a session of the French Film Festival to start, I had a wonderful conversation with a woman who, in response to my tentative confession that the volunteer work I did was for Wikipedia, exclaimed with huge smile on her face: "Wikipedia! I LOVE Wikipedia!" "Oh?" I said. "Yes, I use it every day and it has never let me down." She told me she donates every year "with joy" because it "repays a thousandfold". When she buys lottery tickets she mentally pledges money ("a lot", she emphasised) to the project if she wins. She would like to be an editor when she retires but the world apparently will not let her retire yet; it keeps calling her back to work (her field is Arts Management, I think). She is 74 and fully employed. I was the first Wikipedian she had ever met and she made me feel as if I was solely responsible for some sort of miraculous gift. I asked if she would like to have her image on the on the fund raiser but no, here is a real "user" of Wikipedia who wants to be anonymous. "Anonymous, anonymous", she insisted. "You know my thoughts on the matter, just think of me as your friend in the queue". And I do. Whiteghost.ink On 24 March 2012 08:40, Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com> wrote: