There is now a Systers-Wikipedia private mailing list for Wikipedia women editors only. If you are a Wikipedia woman editor (including transgender), contact me for info on how to join.
I meant to announce this a few weeks ago, but an unplanned, personal business trip and a broken elbow held me up.
Lightbreather
Thanks for setting it up.
Please keep in mind the benefits of bringing back good discussions to the open forum, including self-governance to avoid creating an echo-chamber. The new list excludes me, and at the same time I support experimenting with different types of safe spaces when there is a perceived need.
Fae
On 21 April 2015 at 19:49, LB lightbreather2@gmail.com wrote:
There is now a Systers-Wikipedia private mailing list for Wikipedia women editors only. If you are a Wikipedia woman editor (including transgender), contact me for info on how to join.
I meant to announce this a few weeks ago, but an unplanned, personal business trip and a broken elbow held me up.
Lightbreather
Sounds like a good idea. I have a question, though: if a woman has not publicly disclosed her gender (or claims to be male) to avoid harassment, and she joins the list, can she expect to be "outed" elsewhere by members of the list, or criticised for "lying"? It may be an impossible problem, but it's worth thinking about because there are probably several people who fit that description.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for setting it up.
Please keep in mind the benefits of bringing back good discussions to the open forum, including self-governance to avoid creating an echo-chamber. The new list excludes me, and at the same time I support experimenting with different types of safe spaces when there is a perceived need.
Fae
On 21 April 2015 at 19:49, LB lightbreather2@gmail.com wrote:
There is now a Systers-Wikipedia private mailing list for Wikipedia women editors only. If you are a Wikipedia woman editor (including
transgender),
contact me for info on how to join.
I meant to announce this a few weeks ago, but an unplanned, personal business trip and a broken elbow held me up.
Lightbreather
-- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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No-one claiming to be male on-wiki has asked to join the list. That would be a problem for me and I would take it up with the other list members. I probably would divulge the editors username to see if the existing (vetted) list members have any history with the editor. However, list members agree to abide by certain rules, so "outing" would be bad. This is the Systers-Wikipedia FAQ, which is based on the original Systers list FAQ, and which list members must read an agree to abide by in order to join: http://systers.org/wiki/communities/doku.php?id=wiki:systers:systers-wikiped...
I won't spend a lot of time here discussing the list, but women (including transgender) are welcome to apply.
Lightbreather
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Spike Lechat ekips39wp@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like a good idea. I have a question, though: if a woman has not publicly disclosed her gender (or claims to be male) to avoid harassment, and she joins the list, can she expect to be "outed" elsewhere by members of the list, or criticised for "lying"? It may be an impossible problem, but it's worth thinking about because there are probably several people who fit that description.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for setting it up.
Please keep in mind the benefits of bringing back good discussions to the open forum, including self-governance to avoid creating an echo-chamber. The new list excludes me, and at the same time I support experimenting with different types of safe spaces when there is a perceived need.
Fae
On 21 April 2015 at 19:49, LB lightbreather2@gmail.com wrote:
There is now a Systers-Wikipedia private mailing list for Wikipedia
women
editors only. If you are a Wikipedia woman editor (including
transgender),
contact me for info on how to join.
I meant to announce this a few weeks ago, but an unplanned, personal business trip and a broken elbow held me up.
Lightbreather
-- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Actually, Fae, there isn't much going on now except trying to build the list up a little. After how much resistance (to put it mildly) the idea of a women-only area received on-wiki, I think some women are or would be afraid to be associated with such a group. (I believe that is part of why so much "resistance" (disdain and anger, really) was put up.)
As I've explained in the past, it's mostly there for woman-to-woman to support, not for gossiping about individuals, or for discussing (at length anyway) Wikipedia articles or policies. In fact, no gossiping or discussing articles or policies has taken place to date.
Lightbreather
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for setting it up.
Please keep in mind the benefits of bringing back good discussions to the open forum, including self-governance to avoid creating an echo-chamber. The new list excludes me, and at the same time I support experimenting with different types of safe spaces when there is a perceived need.
Fae
On 21 April 2015 at 19:49, LB lightbreather2@gmail.com wrote:
There is now a Systers-Wikipedia private mailing list for Wikipedia women editors only. If you are a Wikipedia woman editor (including
transgender),
contact me for info on how to join.
I meant to announce this a few weeks ago, but an unplanned, personal business trip and a broken elbow held me up.
Lightbreather
-- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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