On 5/9/2013 8:57 PM, phoebe ayers wrote:
This is clearly untenable; the projects need to grow
experienced
contributors who can serve in positions of leadership and as mentors
on the projects, and we can't expect everyone to just suck it up ("so
sorry, you will have to work with crazy people"). I worry that folks
often just find themselves unsupported. I don't know what the answer is.
1. A
friendlier place to complain than WP:ANI
(which Wikiquette assistance was til they got rid of it)
2. and MORE BLOCKS against jerks from there. I didn't
get much help but was less afraid to complain there
which at least makes some perps a little nervous.
It took me about 4 years before I had courage to go to ANI
and I'm pretty assertive.
Even now I usually only go for pretty clear cases of abusive
Sockpuppets - despite sometimes taking immense
sh*t, snide comments and false accusations, blaring
and bugling my occassional misstep/loss of temper.
It's always nice when other editors
stick up for you and tell the offenders to cut it out.)
If I had a male handle I'm sure I'd be treated better,
and any ANIs about less obvious insults/harassment/
BLP violation/etc. problems would be taken more seriously.
(I can't remember details but it seems my first few
were not and I gave up. Of course I've been brought
there 5-6 times for nonsense which was dismissed.)
On the other hand I like the more obnoxious and/or
patriarchal male editors having to DEAL with the
idea it's a FEMALE who often outsmarts them on
more contentious pages and gets more support
from other editors who may be assumed to be
male.
Sometimes I wish I'd find a more lucrative addiction;
like being addicted to making money :-)
CM
PS: I've said variations on the above 2 or 3
times before on this list, but what the heck...