While I had a problem with general discussion of the topic, once I got
to Bukkake article, a term I never had heard of before, I could easily
see the problem and that there are needed solutions both to make it
inviting to women and to discourage any kind of sexism related to
extensive editng of these articles. (After looking at a dozen of these
articles in last couple days I noticed I've had run ins on other types
of articles with a few of the editors that were uncomfortable.)
First, note that Bukkake is an example of the infamous "circle jerk" (a
notable male only activity with lots of WP:RS) but not only is there *no
article about it,* but the term forwarded to an article about people
masturbating each other - not even accurate.
And of course Gay Bukkake which I just searched and has WP:RS isn't
mentioned. So instead of two similar graphics of a woman being the
object, they obviously need one with a man being the object. The
"snowballing" article, something else new to me similarly showed two
women doing it, even though overwhelmingly it is gay men and
heterosexual couples doing it. All that just shows quite a bit of sexist
and even homophobic POV.
Anyway, more females and gay males (another under-represented here?)
willing to deal with these POVs would help. Plus two suggestions below.
Also, admin wise, maybe Sexual Content needs its own ANI do it doesn't
freak out all the people who don't want to hear about it.
On 2/17/2011 1:15 PM, Brandon Harris wrote:
It's absolutely possible to deal with this by
simply following the
principle of "least surprise".
In this specific case, the problem could easily have been avoided by:
a) Moving "Bukkake" to "Bukkake (Sexual Act)"
b) Making the "Bukkake" page a disambiguation page with a pointer to
"Udon" and one to the sexual activity.
--- On *Thu, 17/2/11, Ryan Kaldari
/<rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org>/*wrote*wrote:
Yep, try
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:People_using_vacuum_cleaners
So do we all agree that the Principle of Least Astonishment needs to be
encoded into some kind of policy or guideline? In other words, images
with a sexual context should only appear in articles/categories that
also have a sexual context. Otherwise, Wikipedia naturally tends towards
an editorial policy dictated by 20-year-old single white males who see
no problem with keeping pictures of naked women in every corner of
Wikipedia and Commons.