Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?

Totally agree, Sarah, with your final point, and thanks for all the other tips. It seems my initial point, which can be stated as "little effect so far" stands, but needs to be qualified somewhat. I'll get right on it, and give you guys and gals a link when the whole text is published. Thanks, everybody for your help. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:06:16 -0800 From: sarah.stierch@gmail.com<mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Yes, the Teahouse project has some data to back it up. You can talk to Jonathan Morgan, who co-build the space and was the lead in pulling data if you need to: jmorgan@wikimedia.org<mailto:jmorgan@wikimedia.org> Laura Hale has been doing some interesting research about the top contributors to English Wikipedia and who write about women's subjects. It's rather depressing, of course. laura@fanhistory.com<mailto:laura@fanhistory.com> The research work the Program Evaluation and Design team did about edit-a-thons and workshops shows little to no retention, which is no surprise, really. But, that was not gender specific. My own personal research showed the same, with womencentric events. But, that doesn't mean a dent hasn't been made. Yes, the Education program happens to have a lot of women who contribute, especially successes in Arabic Wikipedia, but, outside of that specific program, the goal isn't to retain, it's to improve content. I suggest people look at the improvement of "women centric" content versus the retention of women editors. The nut still hasn't been cracked (puns so not intended) on user retention through events, etc. We did discover that a lot of content gets created via edit-a-thons and such events, versus the amount of people who stay on as editors. Don't rule out press and the attention the movement has received on the subject. If you look at the partnerships - hell, the UK government basically said "uh hello, we need more women in science on Wikipedia," last week. Awareness is just one component of "making a difference." -Sarah On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com<mailto:l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com>> wrote: Thank you, Pete, I will take a look at those also. They seem to concur with other studies of percentage of the sexes studying. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." Jimmy Wales Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 05:43:02 -0800 From: peteforsyth@gmail.com<mailto:peteforsyth@gmail.com> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference? Lennart, You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than men). It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more women than men. (This would not impact the general numbers in a signiificant way, but might offer insights into what kinds of activity *would* impact the numbers.) Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] www.wikistrategies.net<http://www.wikistrategies.net> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com<mailto:risker.wp@gmail.com>> wrote: I do not think it will be possible to accurately assess any impact of specific actions, for multiple reasons. The most relevant one, however, is the fact that the WMF itself has not done any broad-scale editor surveys in a very long time, nor have individual communities to the best of my knowledge. Risker/Anne On 26 February 2014 05:37, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com<mailto:l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hello, I am writing a short (1500 word) text for the journal of current cultural research, Culture Unbound (http://www.cultureunbound.ep.liu.se/index.html), to be published in April. The topic touches quite heavily on the gendergap issue. I have tried to find any numbers on whether the initiatives - editathons, Teahouse, etc - have made any dent in the numbers. Are there any such numbers or have I simply fantasized about it? Since they want the text soon, please respond soon. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson 070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter "Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." 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