I am a man and heterosexual, but I identify with you, although for
other reason: when I first came to Wikipedia, the very first thing I
started to do was improving the style of all the Wikipedia:xx pages I
could find and asking about possible changes to the look of the main page.
Some users thought that I was just disturbing, and finally, after some time,
it all came up to a really drastic situation which almost made me leave
Wikipedia (I won't tell).
Now what I came to post:
Since more than a year ago I've been improving several articles in
the Spanish Wikpedia which I'm sure that women visit a lot:
[[:es:Amor]] (love) and [[:es:Autoestima]] (self-esteem) are two
of them. The article [[:es:Risa]] (laughter) could also be interesting
for women, I think. And nursing is a profession with a majority of
women (I am a nurse), so the articles about nursing science are not
well developed, at least in the Spanish Wikipedia, which I know
better.
Miguel Ángel
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Estimado Carolmooredc,
Con fecha jueves, 10 de febrero de 2011, 17:26:44, escribió:
Hi. I'm Carolmooredc and since I edit on
controversial political topics
I get in lots of trouble with guys who don't like opinionated females
who don't shut up and go away when they are told to. I wish it got me
down enough to leave and do something more profitable, but I'm stubborn
- and semi-retired with lots of time on my hands.
I'd like to get more educated and retired people
involved and think
there are tens of thousands who could be attracted - if we could deal
with the bar room brawl aspects of wikipedia as this exaggerated but
amusing article describes: "Wikipedia: This is a man's world"
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/wikipedia…
If the Egyptians can get rid of Mubarak, we can get
rid of incivility on
Wikipedia. (And it is catching; I tend to catch it myself when editing
on one or two articles where there's lots of it and before you know it,
I'm bringing (mild versions of) it elsewhere where all is peaceful. But
at least I'm always willing to apologize and strike my (relatively mild)
incivil comments.
Anyway, bottom line of why I am posting here is to
alert people to at
least one place where relevant discussions listed (now just haphazardly
in talk). Which is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism (I
don't know if other languages have such projects.)
Perhaps "WikiProjects Women" on all language
Wikipedias are necessary to
draw in women who for various reasons might not go to a "Wikiproject
Feminism"??
Anyway, an idea of current issues below on en.
wikipedia below in case
anyone wants to jump right in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#Proposal
Someone else proposed language to WP:Civility to make slurs vs.
homosexuals a no -no and I pointed out it wasn't clear that slurs
against women as women are not sufficiently outlawed in the proposal (or
now). And of course people are now saying adding one or two words to
make both clear is just too much bureaucracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_F…
Proposal to delete in order to to try to have a unified policy because
some categories allow people/organizations to be categorized who may be
bigoted and others don't. Because of consensus on the talk page (formed
by who?) Category:Homophobia doesn't allow it and I have a feeling
Category:sexism wouldn't allow some of us to put all the overtly sexist
(via WP:RS) males and organizations in that category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy#Need_more_warni…
Do we need stronger warnings to new users (esp women) that using real
names (or sex) can lead to harassment? Or even a check mark box for them
to check they've read about that possibility on registering ?
(Obviously, using my real name, I've had problems!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/dispute_resolut…
Main relevant proposals are relating to easier blocks for bad behavior.
(Elsewhere dealing with editors who gang up on others, whether from POV
or just enjoy trashing females, has been discussed so that may yet be a
related proposal on that page.) I was working on a proposal when the NT
TImes articles came out and got sidetracked. Anyway, we definitely need
more female input.
Thanks...
Carol in dc
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