Hi Sarah,
The principle of least surprise is roughly the following:
People who go to a category/gallery/encyclopedia-article expecting something
(shoes) should not be surprised by something they may find offensive (naked
women wearing shoes).
One way to ensure this is to make clearly labelled subcategories for the
potentially offensive material. In this case, I made a subcategory:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_wearing_high-heeled_shoes
and within that
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Nude_women_wearing_high-heeled_s…
so everyone who visits that category knows exactly what they're going to see
in advance.
Regarding your Flickr question: Whether the account is deleted or not
doesn't usually change whether or not the picture is in scope. But deleted
accounts do make the copyright status more questionable. At the time of
upload, the bot would check that the license is correct, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that the Flickr user is uploading copyright
violations to their Flickr account ("Flickrwashing"). If there are other
likely signs of copyright violation, I would nominate for deletion (as I did
for the other image mentioned in this thread
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Young_girl…).
When the account is still active, you can also check the rest of the Flickr
user's contributions to get a good sense of whether they are really the
author of the photos they're uploading.
Snapshots aren't necessarily out of scope just because they're snapshots,
they're sometimes realistically useful for an educational purpose.
Toby
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi Toby -
Sorry to be a n00b but, can you explain what you mean by "refactoring this
category according to the principle of least surprise?"
For anyone else - if you find an image that has been uploaded by a Flickr
bot, and the Flickr account has been deleted what do you do? I notice a
large portion of images like this are often snapshot uneducational photos
(here is an example:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Labace_%2824%29.jpg) I was going to
nominate it for just being out of scope because Commons is not a repository
for snapshots.
;)
Asking questions like this on Commons-L isn't very pleasant, so thanks for
helping!
Thanks,
Sarah
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Toby Hudson <tobyyy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've made a start on refactoring this
category according to the principle
of least surprise. Feel free to do this whenever you notice a "surprising"
image in a mundane category.
Regarding consent, if any of the identifiable women are in private
locations,
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:PEOPLE<http://commons.wikimedia.or…pplies,
and the uploader should state that permission was obtained to take
& publish the image. If this has not been done, please either contact the
uploader or propose deletion.
Toby Hudson / 99of9
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Category:High-heeled shoes is an excellent
example of the current problem
WMF projects are having with creating and disseminating content that is
unbiased.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:High-heeled_shoes
This category is different that most all the other categories about
footwear because it contains many images that are not primarily examples of
high-heeled shoes. Most other categories about footwear contain mostly
images of shoes or the lower leg(s) with a shoe or shoes.
The number of images in Category:High-heeled shoes is higher than most
categories about footwear. Approximately one- third of the images are of
full body shots of attractive females who are wearing high heeled shoes, and
a significant number of them are nude or posed in sexually provocative
positions.
There are random women who are wearing shoes and are mixed in with the
porn-stars and strip-tease dancers. These women are being objectified and
sexualized without their consent because of the way the the images are
displayed in the category. See Wikipedia article on Sexualization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexualization for a description of the
term.
In each language that has Wikipedia articles about high-heeled shoes, the
content is about a type of footwear, so the links in the articles that lead
to commons are directing people to nudity or sexual content that they would
not anticipate. There are other problems with some of the images, including
unclear consent for the image to be uploaded by the subject of the image.
I see this category as a concrete example of systemic bias coming from
having a male dominated editing community.
Leather boots is only other category that I found that also has a large
number of images of people. It also contain a disproportionate number of
images of women who are nude or in sexually provocative poses.
I think that it is important to continue to talk about these issues in
the hope that more people with became educated about the problems with with
our current methods to collect, categorize, and disseminate content.
Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
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