Exactly. IRC is for the old school and ubergeek. And as Sue has said in the
past - we're only going to "retain" specific types of people to be long
term editors (ubergeeks like us) but, if we can figure out a solution to
help out the "average joe/sphine" editor...
then huzzah. That's what the Teahouse helped do, but what is the next step
to supporting people who haven't quite passed the barrier to "editing"
Wikipedia.
And expecting people to want to "join the ranks" through OTRS emails surely
isn't the ultimate goal..
-Sarah
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Michael J. Lowrey <orangemike(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
That's exactly my point, Pine. This kind of
inside-baseball geekery is
so much Choctaw to the ordinary new editor we are trying to recruit
and retain, people more likely to be using Pinterest or Skype or
Ravelry to communicate with peers and mentors.
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You might be surprised how widely and how much
Freenode is used for open
source projects. The Blender main and dev channels were even more active
than English Wikipedia's equivalents when I visited a few days ago.
Pine
On Aug 2, 2014 6:38 PM, "Michael J. Lowrey" <orangemike(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> IRC is almost embarrassingly old technology; Wikimedia Foundation
> projects are the only place I've seen it mentioned in the last five
> years or more.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > We already have #wikipedia-en-help which is remarkably good for a
> > volunteer
> > help project. Links to join that IRC channel could be offered in
> > multiple
> > places. Other languages may have similar channels.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2014 8:42 AM, "Jeremy Baron" <jeremy(a)tuxmachine.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Aug 2, 2014 11:01 AM, "LtPowers"
<LtPowers_Wiki(a)rochester.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > And then there could be a little chat window allowing real-time
> >> > communication while the editor walks through her first edit.
> >>
> >> [originally didn't realize who you were replying to… also haven't
read
> >> the
> >> whole thread yet]
> >>
> >> That is technically feasible. Maybe would have new implications for
> >> privacy (including WMF privacy policy). Unless the realtime chats
were
> >> publicly logged. (then same privacy
as existing teahouse, etc)
> >>
> >> Essentially would be a more interactive version of teahouse? (i.e.
> >> shorter
> >> wait for a reply and you're paired with someone that's known to be
> >> available
> >> at that moment) would be a part of teahouse?
> >>
> >> How would you staff it? Shifts?
> >>
> >> Anyway, that does nothing for the case Kathleen describes. 25 people
> >> (20f:5m) in a class and everyone getting that introduction to all
> >> things
> >> wiki. Then 7 stay active for a year including all the men. (and only
2
> of
> the 20 women)
>
> I'm leaning towards thinking we as a community should (for now) focus
> more
> on the retention gap than the recruitment gap. Then we're not
> recruiting
> people just to (mostly) lose them in a month or two. But would be
> interested
> to hear thoughts on that from someone with a more rigorous analysis.
>
> -Jeremy (jeremyb)
>
> P.S.
http://www.onthemedia.org/story/31-race-swap-experiment/
>
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