Is there a specific point you are trying to make other than stating the obvious?
Cheers,
Peter
From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Robert Williams Sent: Tuesday, 06 October 2015 9:31 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work
Okay, so the main problem is double-standard in which women speaking up against perceived harassment is considered incivil. I'd just like to say that there is a difference between a legitimate whistle blower and a whiny little mushroom.--Eat me, I'm an azuki At 2015-10-06 02:42:56, "Carol Moore dc" carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/4/2015 5:59 AM, Robert Williams wrote:
Well, what I'd like to say is that some of these arguments do make sense. While men shouldn't get over-sensitive over perceived "harassment" of them, neither should women just whine about harassment.--Eat me, I'm an azuki
The problem is is the double standard where women's actions are more easily perceived as uncivil and/or harassment and their complaints about incivility/harassment are labeled whining or even harassment.
I got banned from Wikipedia for merely defending myself against constant harassment on the Gender Gap talk page and losing my temper a few times in Arbitration because of the massive harassment there by people I didn't even know.
The guy who got Ibanned from me for harassment got NO other warning or sanction about it during arbitration. The guy who started a harassing article about me only got a warning.
Only two of the several guys who worked together to harass and sabotage the talk page got warnings about it.
By the way, "eat me, I'm an azuki" doesn't sound like a friendly message. Must I really do an internet search of the meaning of the term azuki?
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