Alas no, I'm not up to your challenge. I'm subject to quite enough
aggression and strange sexualization of situations on enwp; I don't have
the energy to dive headfirst into an even worse atmosphere of those things
on Commons. I'm much more comfortable speaking here, in an environment of
respect and support, than I would ever be there, in an environment where my
right to my opinions would be challenged and I'd be shouting into a void
while thinking that at any moment someone was going to ask me to show my
"tits".
Not everyone has unlimited tolerance for doing things that make them very
uncomfortable; as someone whose tolerance for that is perhaps lower than
some other people's, my hope is that my voice here, where I *am *comfortable
speaking, will be heard - as it seems to be, given this thread and the
inroads that have been made on Commons as a result of it - and that my
speaking here it will provide support to the people who *are *willing to
brave that environment.
-Fluff
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hey Fluff,
Indeed we did have a conversation on IRC the other day. You and I may not
agree on numerous things, and in many instances we have very similar views
(but perhaps you just aren't aware of it), but one thing we surely can
agree on is that by only commenting on this list is not having your voice
heard in the place where it matters -- and that is on Commons.
I urged you the other day to come and join us on the project, noting that
you don't have many contributions there (
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fluffernutter),
and I am again urging you to come and join us.
Are you up for that challenge?
Cheers,
Russavia
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Katherine Casey <
fluffernutter.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Russavia, from the perspective of many people
here, "blowing hot air" on
Commons is the least likely to bring about change of any of the options you
mention. I know you don't agree with that (you and I had quite a long IRC
conversation the other day where you made that clear), but it is the
genuine impression many, many of us have been left with after watching how
discussions tend to go there.
-Fluff
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