yes, training could work at wikimania
the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon,
and a track at London
what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating <
chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've added myself to the list of interested people :)
Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the
Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania?
On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins:
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training
>
> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training
> for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see
> something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth
> trying.
>
> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on
> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day
> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to
> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity).
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <reguyla(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to
>> implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where
>> they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how
>> they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are
>> the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity
>> training, I'm not sure how much it would help.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating <
>> chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but:
>>>
>>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among
>>> otherwise well-intentioned community members.
>>>
>>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play
>>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators
>>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem
>>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can
>>> sometimes be a tool to exclude people.
>>>
>>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries
>>> to help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the
>>> point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly thankless
>>> roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks.
>>>
>>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some
>>> volunteer input); could it help?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
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