Ryan Kaldari, 08/05/2013 07:09:
On 5/7/13 9:57 AM, Russavia wrote:
Frankly, I don't know why this is a
"feminist" issue; rather than an
issue of common sense.
Agreed. I often find it is counter-productive to frame these sort of
debates in terms of feminism/sexism/etc. [...]
Sure. I'm not following this list that closely lately, but since when
it's been hijacked by musty debates on nudity images? Is it the end of
any hope in the usefulness of this list/group, or just a phase?
I guess it's a pattern, we now entered the equivalent of the 1980s
decadence of feminism.
http://caae.phil.cmu.edu/cavalier/Forum/pornography/background/CMC_article.…
«Combining both sexual preference issues and political coercion
concerns, Pat Califia sees the MacKinnon/Dworkin legal initiative as
opening the door for suppression of gay rights and the gay life-style.»
So in the next decade we may see better understanding. Is there
something we can learn from the past to make this process less painful?
Maybe: «Feminists should reconsider their role in advancing or
obstructing the agendas of sex worker unions, and how their work on
behalf of the many victims of sexual violence can be continued without
perpetuating the marginalization of sex performers and providers.»
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminist-sex-markets/
Or as a student says: «In the course of my research, I do believe that
the older feminist stance on pornography, as represented by the leaders
of the heyday of the feminist anti-pornography movement, Catherine
McKinnon and Andrea Dworkin, is one that has been subsequently revealed
to be both outdated and no longer useful for modern feminists. [...] I
would argue in focusing on the evils of pornography, feminists are
merely masking larger, deeper, and far more important issues.»
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1630
Nemo