This is what I'm talking about - So the comment that had sexist undertones is not being discussed, but the fact that a comment was used to express frustrations is being analyzed? There has to be a commitment on this list that we are not going to reproduce the same behavior and environments that are so unattractive to women in the first place. Saying that someone is "scared" of a group with a high percentage of women, or telling a woman "ohh your wrong" when she shares her experience, is really not cool - particularly on this lsit!
sandy
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
Fred, exactly why do you think hanging out in a woman-friendly environment would be so terrible? Perhaps if you could itemize for us what's wrong with people with vaginas being all up in your world, we could actually have a discussion on the topic.
A feminized environment is something rather different from a woman-friendly environment just as a masculinized environment such as a biker bar is different from an environment which welcomes men.
Your language is interesting. Vaginas are hardly the center of attention in either a feminized or woman-friendly environment. As to "people with vaginas being all up in [my] world", certainly there are issues, but troublesome people come in all genders.
Fred
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Fred Bauder fredbaud@fairpoint.netwrote:
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This is the email I sent Sandra; hardly "a long email back stating that feminism shouldn't be about revenge. ..."
Sandra could we see the email you think you got?
Fred
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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Women4Wikipedia From: "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@fairpoint.net Date: Thu, February 17, 2011 9:03 pm To: "Sandra" sandratordonez@gmail.com
Serious, but actually it can be funny. A feminized environment is awkward for a man and provides opportunity for humor.
Fred
Fred r u being funny or serious - I can't tell.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:39 PM, "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
It has occurred to me to wonder what Wikipedia would look like if
85%
of its editors were female?
regards
Rosie Williams
@collectiveact
It would be pretty awful. Scenes like that are not welcoming.
Fred
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