It is very interesting to follow you in your careful interpretation of data. If the available data can provide interesting information, I suggest to take into account the Spanish Wikipedia (it is not on the given data). UNESCO made several studies on gendergap and determined that Latin America (and probably Spain) is the region with less gendergap at scientific level, followed by Europe-North America, Africa and finally Asia. Patricia
--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Andreas Kolbe jayen466@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Gender preference To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 2:23 PM
--- On Fri, 11/2/11, Ism Woonpton woonpton@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ism Woonpton woonpton@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Gender preference To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, 11 February, 2011, 16:18 Please, please, please be careful here. The data offered here answer the question "How many editors self-identify on Wikipedia as female?" not the question "How many females edit Wikipedia?" There's a very important difference, and these numbers should not be generalized beyond the small percentage of editors who give their gender in "preferences" on Wikipedia. In other words, of the 280,285 people (2% of all editors) who identify their gender, 16% self-identify as female. It is very probable that women who self-identify as women (and who are interested enough to say so in "preferences") differ in important ways from women editors as a whole. To use that number as a proxy for "How many of the 13+million editors are female?" would be a serious mistake. The survey with over 100,000 responses, which was purported to be anonymous (although I know of at least one woman who refused to give her gender even on that survey because she didn't trust the assurance of anonymity) is a much more valid estimate of female participation. Not perfect by any means, but certainly better.
The only thing these numbers tell *me* is that editors on Wikipedia, male and female, aren't terribly interested in identifying themselves by gender. I wouldn't draw any conclusion, even tentative, from it beyond that, or use this as a number to (shudder) "extrapolate from." If you're going to extrapolate, you need something solid to extrapolate from.
Woonpton
Spoken like a true statistician, and absolutely correct. :)
Andreas
On 2/11/11, paolo massa paolo@gnuband.org wrote:
I posted on my blog the table. See http://www.gnuband.org/2011/02/10/percentage_of_men_and_women_on_different_w...
Amir left a comment saying that the User: namespace in
Russian is
translated into the equivalent of User_male: (I guess
if the user set
male in the preferences as gender) and User_female:
(if female in the
preferences).
Do you know if this happens in other wikipedia as
well?
In Russian Wikipedia, if gender is not set, how User:
is rendered?
With the male equivalent or there is a neutral form?
P.
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Joseph Reagle joseph.2008@reagle.org wrote:
On Wednesday, February 09, 2011, Oliver Keyes
wrote:
So, depressingly, it looks like en-wiki is
actually doing the best! :P.
Any chance we could have that broken into
percentages?
My preliminary tabulation shows WP in the middle.
Also, oddly, a lot of
Russians apparently gender declare. One of the odd
things with the survey
from which the 13% is derived is how many
Russians participated. Maybe
the really like to identify with WP?
en.wikipedia : 2.01% declared: 233312 men; 46973
women; women are 16.76%
de.wikipedia : 3.47% declared: 35726 men;
4800 women; women are 11.84%
fr.wikipedia : 2.16% declared: 18556 men;
3054 women; women are 14.13%
commons : 2.26% declared: 27980 men;
5070 women; women are 15.34%
sr.wikipedia : 2.66% declared: 1666 men;
414 women; women are 19.90%
ru.wikipedia : 16.80% declared: 80491 men; 23750
women; women are 22.78%
pl.wikipedia : 3.64% declared: 12106 men;
2999 women; women are 19.85%
nl.wikipedia : 2.92% declared: 8977 men;
1781 women; women are 16.56%
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