Dear Douglas I really appreciate your comment on the subject at hand. And to Felix, you are on point on all your suggestions.
Douglas, mentioned 2 key issues in your submission:
1. Inability of the South African Chapter to host for now, due to short of resources.
2. The need for editors in Africa to be more active in their contributions by way of editing and community activities.
This is my position:
Without any prejudice to the position of South African Chapter of WMF as the shining light of Africa in WMF. However, we need to understand that Wikindaba though conceptualized by South Africans but it's a project for all the Wikipedians community in Africa. Therefore, if we believed that it's not dead yet. Therefore, another country should take up the gauntlet of hosting the new edition . In doing this, we can follow Felix suggestion by selecting one person per affiliate to form a committee that will assist in planning and selection of a host nation.
Douglas, to confirm the growth of Wikimedia in Africa. As at the last Wikindaba, . If I am not mistaken, we only have Tunisia as the only User Group and South Africa as the only Chapter . But at the moment we have additional Three User Groups which include: Nigeria, Ghana, Cotevoire.
Lastly, if collaboration among these groups is strengthen through a continental wide activities. No doubt, more editors will be discovered subsequently our contributions will soar to the sky. A very good example is wiki Loves Africa
Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria
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1. Re: Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 (Kangah Donatien KOFFI) 2. Re: Is Wikidaba dead? (Felix Nartey)
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:42:11 +0000 From: Kangah Donatien KOFFI donatien.kanga@gmail.com To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 Message-ID: CADWy+57TX_dMYADSrVtThUPu5gL9eF=MR=ziNDpOnoADj4SK-A@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi @Flo,
We will discuss about an activity during the staff meeting of our User Group this saturday. So it's after this meeting we can share our project about #Wikipedia15.
2015-12-15 14:25 GMT+00:00 Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org:
Hello
No one answered that email :) I take it that no other plans have been organized for Wikipedia 15 beyond Tunisia, Ghana and maybe Nigeria ?
Just checking ...
Flo
Le 08/12/15 22:28, Florence Devouard a écrit :
Hello friends
I just discussed with the WMF team in charge of communication related to Wikipedia 15 and I was wondering which events were organized/planned in Africa to celebrate Wikipedia 15.
The central hub to discuss/organize Wikipedia 15 is here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
I see two events recorded in Africa. One in Ghana, by Ghana user group, for a day ending with dinner : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana One in Tunisia, by Tunisia user group, with a dinner celebrations (including WLM and WLA)
I am aware of the grant request from Nigeria
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wiki...
Are there other events foreseen ?
Quels évènements/célébrations sont-elles prévues en Afrique pour célébrer Wikipedia 15 le 15 janvier ?
An
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Hello
I completely agree with Ola here.
I would like to bring my European perspective on the matter :)
About 10 years ago, we started having a regular annual Wikimedia meeting in Europe. Most of those years, it has been hosted by Germany, though I also remember at least one edition in Netherlands.
It happened because... * Germany was the richest chapter * Germany had more staff, so more logistical support * Germany is pretty central, with good access from everywhere * Germany is a rather low cost country compared to others * Tolerant/Supportive to gays, vegetarian diet, watery beer but great night clubs and music * etc.
but all those reasons fade behind ONE big reason. GERMAN CHAPTER WAS HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO DO IT
They just wanted to do it because they felt it was important. Other countries were interested as well... wanted to do it... felt they had a duty to do it... felt the country needed to turn... but they were not pro-active because they were not HIGHLY motivated as Germans were.
So what did Germans do ? Very simple... they were pro-active :) They did not only talk, they acted.
They prepared a solid proposition, with location, hosting solutions, travel options, program outline, budget. Posted it on meta. Requested feedback and support.
Some links of interest * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009 (this is a link to the first one organized in Germany) * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010 (the same, in 2010. It gives a good idea of what you could start with)
Cheers
Anthere
Le 16/12/15 08:11, Olaniyan Olushola a écrit :
Dear Douglas I really appreciate your comment on the subject at hand. And to Felix, you are on point on all your suggestions.
Douglas, mentioned 2 key issues in your submission:
Inability of the South African Chapter to host for now, due to short of resources.
The need for editors in Africa to be more active in their contributions by way of editing and community activities.
This is my position:
Without any prejudice to the position of South African Chapter of WMF as the shining light of Africa in WMF. However, we need to understand that Wikindaba though conceptualized by South Africans but it's a project for all the Wikipedians community in Africa. Therefore, if we believed that it's not dead yet. Therefore, another country should take up the gauntlet of hosting the new edition . In doing this, we can follow Felix suggestion by selecting one person per affiliate to form a committee that will assist in planning and selection of a host nation.
Douglas, to confirm the growth of Wikimedia in Africa. As at the last Wikindaba, . If I am not mistaken, we only have Tunisia as the only User Group and South Africa as the only Chapter . But at the moment we have additional Three User Groups which include: Nigeria, Ghana, Cotevoire.
Lastly, if collaboration among these groups is strengthen through a continental wide activities. No doubt, more editors will be discovered subsequently our contributions will soar to the sky. A very good example is wiki Loves Africa
Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria
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- Re: Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 (Kangah Donatien KOFFI)
- Re: Is Wikidaba dead? (Felix Nartey)
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:42:11 +0000 From: Kangah Donatien KOFFI donatien.kanga@gmail.com To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 Message-ID: CADWy+57TX_dMYADSrVtThUPu5gL9eF=MR=ziNDpOnoADj4SK-A@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi @Flo,
We will discuss about an activity during the staff meeting of our User Group this saturday. So it's after this meeting we can share our project about #Wikipedia15.
2015-12-15 14:25 GMT+00:00 Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org:
Hello
No one answered that email :) I take it that no other plans have been organized for Wikipedia 15 beyond Tunisia, Ghana and maybe Nigeria ?
Just checking ...
Flo
Le 08/12/15 22:28, Florence Devouard a écrit :
Hello friends
I just discussed with the WMF team in charge of communication related to Wikipedia 15 and I was wondering which events were organized/planned in Africa to celebrate Wikipedia 15.
The central hub to discuss/organize Wikipedia 15 is here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
I see two events recorded in Africa. One in Ghana, by Ghana user group, for a day ending with dinner : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana One in Tunisia, by Tunisia user group, with a dinner celebrations (including WLM and WLA)
I am aware of the grant request from Nigeria
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wiki...
Are there other events foreseen ?
Quels évènements/célébrations sont-elles prévues en Afrique pour célébrer Wikipedia 15 le 15 janvier ?
An
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Hello
I completely agree with Ola here.
I would like to bring my European perspective on the matter :)
About 10 years ago, we started having a regular annual Wikimedia meeting in Europe. Most of those years, it has been hosted by Germany, though I also remember at least one edition in Netherlands.
It happened because... * Germany was the richest chapter * Germany had more staff, so more logistical support * Germany is pretty central, with good access from everywhere * Germany is a rather low cost country compared to others * Tolerant/Supportive to gays, vegetarian diet, watery beer but great night clubs and music * etc.
but all those reasons fade behind ONE big reason. GERMAN CHAPTER WAS HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO DO IT
They just wanted to do it because they felt it was important. Other countries were interested as well... wanted to do it... felt they had a duty to do it... felt the country needed to turn... but they were not pro-active because they were not HIGHLY motivated as Germans were.
So what did Germans do ? Very simple... they were pro-active :) They did not only talk, they acted.
They prepared a solid proposition, with location, hosting solutions, travel options, program outline, budget. Posted it on meta. Requested feedback and support.
Some links of interest * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009 (this is a link to the first one organized in Germany) * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010 (the same, in 2010. It gives a good idea of what you could start with)
Cheers
Anthere
Le 16/12/15 08:11, Olaniyan Olushola a écrit :
Dear Douglas I really appreciate your comment on the subject at hand. And to Felix, you are on point on all your suggestions.
Douglas, mentioned 2 key issues in your submission:
Inability of the South African Chapter to host for now, due to short of resources.
The need for editors in Africa to be more active in their contributions by way of editing and community activities.
This is my position:
Without any prejudice to the position of South African Chapter of WMF as the shining light of Africa in WMF. However, we need to understand that Wikindaba though conceptualized by South Africans but it's a project for all the Wikipedians community in Africa. Therefore, if we believed that it's not dead yet. Therefore, another country should take up the gauntlet of hosting the new edition . In doing this, we can follow Felix suggestion by selecting one person per affiliate to form a committee that will assist in planning and selection of a host nation.
Douglas, to confirm the growth of Wikimedia in Africa. As at the last Wikindaba, . If I am not mistaken, we only have Tunisia as the only User Group and South Africa as the only Chapter . But at the moment we have additional Three User Groups which include: Nigeria, Ghana, Cotevoire.
Lastly, if collaboration among these groups is strengthen through a continental wide activities. No doubt, more editors will be discovered subsequently our contributions will soar to the sky. A very good example is wiki Loves Africa
Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria
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Dear Shola and others,
Thank you for resurrecting the idea of Wiki Indaba. Having seen the many significant and exciting changes in the African Wiki-scape since we got together in Johannesburg in 2014, I think it is far too important an event for the African community to let slide away.
My suggestion is this … if you find value in Wiki Indaba (and I know that you do), take the initiative, “be bold”. Douglas has declared WMZA will not be moving forward with it at this stage. It is now up to whoever is the most motivated (as Florence said) to take up the baton.
If you are keen to host Wiki Indaba in your country, ask your WM UG colleagues if they would like to go forward and host it. Talk to Habib about his experience with hosting WikiArabia (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiArabia https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiArabia and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiArabia/2015 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiArabia/2015 and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_TN_User_Group/Wiki-Arab... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_TN_User_Group/Wiki-Arabia-2015). Theresa can share the feedback forms from Wiki Indaba 2014 so you know what worked and what didn’t.
Let the wider group know which UG is keen to host, and then put together a project plan and grant proposal, and submit them. Be aware that there is a lot of planning and effort involved, so make sure it is a team of you organising this and not just one or two people. Remember to also have lots and lots of fun!!
Let us all know your plans!!
For those of you not working over the holiday season, have a very very happy festive season!! Such an exciting 2016 to look forward to.
Warmest regards Isla
On 16 Dec 2015, at 11:50 AM, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:
Hello
I completely agree with Ola here.
I would like to bring my European perspective on the matter :)
About 10 years ago, we started having a regular annual Wikimedia meeting in Europe. Most of those years, it has been hosted by Germany, though I also remember at least one edition in Netherlands.
It happened because...
- Germany was the richest chapter
- Germany had more staff, so more logistical support
- Germany is pretty central, with good access from everywhere
- Germany is a rather low cost country compared to others
- Tolerant/Supportive to gays, vegetarian diet, watery beer but great night clubs and music
- etc.
but all those reasons fade behind ONE big reason. GERMAN CHAPTER WAS HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO DO IT
They just wanted to do it because they felt it was important. Other countries were interested as well... wanted to do it... felt they had a duty to do it... felt the country needed to turn... but they were not pro-active because they were not HIGHLY motivated as Germans were.
So what did Germans do ? Very simple... they were pro-active :) They did not only talk, they acted.
They prepared a solid proposition, with location, hosting solutions, travel options, program outline, budget. Posted it on meta. Requested feedback and support.
Some links of interest
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/WM_DE/Wikimedia_Conference_2015
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_meeting_2009 (this is a link to the first one organized in Germany)
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2010 (the same, in 2010. It gives a good idea of what you could start with)
Cheers
Anthere
Le 16/12/15 08:11, Olaniyan Olushola a écrit :
Dear Douglas I really appreciate your comment on the subject at hand. And to Felix, you are on point on all your suggestions.
Douglas, mentioned 2 key issues in your submission:
Inability of the South African Chapter to host for now, due to short of resources.
The need for editors in Africa to be more active in their contributions by way of editing and community activities.
This is my position:
Without any prejudice to the position of South African Chapter of WMF as the shining light of Africa in WMF. However, we need to understand that Wikindaba though conceptualized by South Africans but it's a project for all the Wikipedians community in Africa. Therefore, if we believed that it's not dead yet. Therefore, another country should take up the gauntlet of hosting the new edition . In doing this, we can follow Felix suggestion by selecting one person per affiliate to form a committee that will assist in planning and selection of a host nation.
Douglas, to confirm the growth of Wikimedia in Africa. As at the last Wikindaba, . If I am not mistaken, we only have Tunisia as the only User Group and South Africa as the only Chapter . But at the moment we have additional Three User Groups which include: Nigeria, Ghana, Cotevoire.
Lastly, if collaboration among these groups is strengthen through a continental wide activities. No doubt, more editors will be discovered subsequently our contributions will soar to the sky. A very good example is wiki Loves Africa
Olaniyan Olushola Team Lead, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria
The SOUL OF WIKINDABA is begging us for our revival Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:african-wikimedians-request@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:10 PM To: african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Reply To: african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 7, Issue 165
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- Re: Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 (Kangah Donatien KOFFI)
- Re: Is Wikidaba dead? (Felix Nartey)
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:42:11 +0000 From: Kangah Donatien KOFFI donatien.kanga@gmail.com mailto:donatien.kanga@gmail.com To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Fwd: Re: Wikipedia 15 Message-ID: CADWy+57TX_dMYADSrVtThUPu5gL9eF=MR=ziNDpOnoADj4SK-A@mail.gmail.com mailto:CADWy+57TX_dMYADSrVtThUPu5gL9eF=MR=ziNDpOnoADj4SK-A@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi @Flo,
We will discuss about an activity during the staff meeting of our User Group this saturday. So it's after this meeting we can share our project about #Wikipedia15.
2015-12-15 14:25 GMT+00:00 Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org mailto:anthere@anthere.org:
Hello
No one answered that email :) I take it that no other plans have been organized for Wikipedia 15 beyond Tunisia, Ghana and maybe Nigeria ?
Just checking ...
Flo
Le 08/12/15 22:28, Florence Devouard a écrit :
Hello friends
I just discussed with the WMF team in charge of communication related to Wikipedia 15 and I was wondering which events were organized/planned in Africa to celebrate Wikipedia 15.
The central hub to discuss/organize Wikipedia 15 is here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15
I see two events recorded in Africa. One in Ghana, by Ghana user group, for a day ending with dinner : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_15/Events/Ghana One in Tunisia, by Tunisia user group, with a dinner celebrations (including WLM and WLA)
I am aware of the grant request from Nigeria
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wiki... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wikimedia_Nigeria_User_Group/Wikipedia_at_15_Celebration_in_Nigeria
Are there other events foreseen ?
Quels évènements/célébrations sont-elles prévues en Afrique pour célébrer Wikipedia 15 le 15 janvier ?
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