Hello Isla, I didnt get a scholarship and I dont know anyone from Cameroon who did. Thanks, Ndala

On Friday, March 11, 2016 2:06 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI donatien.kanga@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone in Côte d'Ivoire didn't get a scholarship. 2016-03-11 13:03 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie rberchie@gmail.com:

Hello Isla I didn't get a scholarship and do not know anyone in Ghana too who did.On 11 Mar 2016 12:46, "Isla Haddow Flood" isla@wikiloveswomen.org wrote:

Hello All Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.  thanks!Isla Isla Haddow-FloodProject Manager: WikiAfricaUsername: Islahaddow

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I didn’t either. so Who did???

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:22 PM, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org wrote:

I am curious to who got one from Africa....

Ok. Looks like we need a WikiIndaba :)

Florence

Le 11/03/16 14:14, Aminou Ndala TITA a écrit :

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Hello Isla,

I didnt get a scholarship and I dont know anyone from Cameroon who did.

Thanks,

Ndala

On Friday, March 11, 2016 2:06 PM, Kangah Donatien KOFFI donatien.kanga@gmail.com mailto:donatien.kanga@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone in Côte d'Ivoire didn't get a scholarship.

2016-03-11 13:03 GMT+00:00 Raphael Berchie <rberchie@gmail.com mailto:rberchie@gmail.com>: Hello Isla I didn't get a scholarship and do not know anyone in Ghana too who did. On 11 Mar 2016 12:46, "Isla Haddow Flood" < mailto:isla@wikiloveswomen.orgisla@wikiloveswomen.org mailto:isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote: Hello All

Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.

thanks! Isla

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Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:

I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.

On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza@greenman.co.za mailto:wikimediaza@greenman.co.za> wrote: I applied, also didn't get.

On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:

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Hello All

Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.

thanks! Isla

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So where did the other 73% go?

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Isla Haddow Flood isla@wikiloveswomen.org wrote:

Okay - it is 2%, but it is still insulting.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 4:18 PM, Isla Haddow Flood isla@wikiloveswomen.org wrote:

Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:

I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.

On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan wikimediaza@greenman.co.za wrote:

...

I applied, also didn't get.

On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:

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thanks! Isla

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Isla,

I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l soon.

124 Scholarships were awarded.

Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.

Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.

You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?

Ellie Young WMF Events Manager on behalf of the Scholarship Committee

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood isla@wikiloveswomen.org wrote:

Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:

I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.

On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan wikimediaza@greenman.co.za wrote:

...

I applied, also didn't get.

On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:

Hello All

Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.

thanks! Isla

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I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and representation within the broader community make it well worth it.

Regards,

Douglas. On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki.

I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up.

Thanks. On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:

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Isla,

I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l soon.

124 Scholarships were awarded.

Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.

Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.

You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?

Ellie Young WMF Events Manager on behalf of the Scholarship Committee

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood < isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:

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Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:

I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.

On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan wikimediaza@greenman.co.za wrote:

...

I applied, also didn't get.

On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:

Hello All

Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.

thanks! Isla

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second the technology that edit is easy highly influences contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no wonder that we have so little contributions.

Is this to say that contributions from Africa are to some extent low because of Africa being mobile, and the mobile editing platform not being fully advanced yet? If that's your point, then I won't agree on that.

At the moment, I personally find the mobile editing (both from the native apps and web app ) to be great. There's not much I would add to the current state without bloating up the small screen of a mobile to the stage where control buttons have taken over the screen estate.

I don't do extensive editing on mobile, and I don't know anyone who makes extensive editing on mobile. I've always seen the mobile editing to be an added advantage, and not to replace the conventional desktop editing experience. On the go, you wanna fix a typo in an article, you wanna add a paragraph, that's how I see the mobile experience, and not as a reference/citation editing experience, or not for the advanced editing stuffs.

I wouldn't blame the low edits from the 'mobile Africa' ( is that even a good thing?) on the fledgling Wikipedia mobile editing experience.

Perhaps it boils down to a blame game. Without PC? "I would edit if I had a PC". No Internet? "I would edit if I had Internet." No smartphone? "I would edit if I had one." Give me all that and I'll say: "If only the internet was that fast, and phone and PC were that high performing, I would edit." Gimme combined power of all quantum processors in the world, and I'll still say: "If only my PC was a bit slower, it's too fast."

My point? Something is always to be blamed; something always is the culprit, but never *me*! I'm never the problem! On 12 Mar 2016 8:58 am, "rupert THURNER" rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:

hi,

i find this a delicate topic in general, boiling down to two aspects at the end. first, value edits (article space, not talk page and meta edits), software contributions. when persons apply for positions in the wikiverse, edits are considered a nice to have - which is imo setting a bad example. second the technology that edit is easy highly influences contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no wonder that we have so little contributions.

on a scholarship side, factor in the financial possibilities, and the cost of coming might not be to bad. if africans contribute and 20 apply, i would not find it wasted money to have them all come. i do not care about africa as a continent, or percentage of whatever. it is a personal, human factor. what counts is if persons from regions attend where the knowledge of the movement is not so high. let people mix up with experienced persons to discuss attitudes. but - they need to meet persons who edit otherwise it has more an effect of travel agency :) this also means that i consider it pointless if every year the same persons come. my mail does not mean i appreciate the style and tone of olaniyans mail though, there i am 100% with asaf, and rex.

rupert

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com

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wrote:

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I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and representation within the broader community make it well worth it.

Regards,

Douglas. On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:

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Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki.

I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up.

Thanks. On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:

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Isla,

I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l soon.

124 Scholarships were awarded.

Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.

Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.

You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?

Ellie Young WMF Events Manager on behalf of the Scholarship Committee

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood < isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:

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Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

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Hi all,

I have listened and learned from the comments of y'all. I have been around a while to know that these scholarships seem to be going to the same or close to the same people each year.

Judging Africans with a pool of other seasoned editors who have been in this game for nearly a decade is not even a fair ground to start with. How do you expect similar exploits? It's only obvious one has already gotten ahead of the other, therefore putting say applicants in a pool and sometimes selecting based on their default language of edit is awful. I have noticed most of the Africans who usually get the scholarship have a different default language of edit (not English), I may be wrong :-)

I think it's just reasonable enough for any institution or person ready to extend their exploits to a virgin or novice land, to make adequate commitment or extend sufficient resources to set the cause. Practically your constant involvement with this new place should spark up interests and further commitments from your audience.

It may or may not be reasonable to give 20% of the total number of Africans who applied a scholarship, but it certainly doesn't make sense if the same kinda people (not only from Africa) get selected to attend Wikimania each year. It defeats one of the main purposes of Wikimania, which I think makes you feel like a part of a bigger body, stirs motivation in participants and inspires others who hope to one day gain the opportunity. Not just sitting somewhere determining what percentage of Africans should be selected. In fact not considering if there are new applicants who deserve a place rather than most likely selecting the same people each year.

I find it funny to have applied since I joined and never had a chance, yet others get the chance to go year on year. In actual sense those who have gone a previous year and wish to go the following year, should be made to give very tangible or compelling enough reason or better, be instrumental for the conference. Other than that, other promising or up and coming should be given a chance. It's sad the way this is going and am very sad people have lost faith in the selection process, cos I know someone from Ghana whom I think really deserved it this year. He killed it in terms of new edits, community involvement etc. It's rather unfortunate.

Cheers, hi rex,

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Nkansah Rexford seanmavley@gmail.com wrote:

On 12 Mar 2016 8:58 am, "rupert THURNER" rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:

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second the technology that edit is easy highly influences contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no wonder that we have so little contributions.

At the moment, I personally find the mobile editing (both from the native apps and web app ) to be great. There's not much I would add to the

current

I don't do extensive editing on mobile, and I don't know anyone who makes extensive editing on mobile. I've always seen the mobile editing to be an added advantage, and not to replace the conventional desktop editing experience. On the go, you wanna fix a typo in an article, you wanna add a paragraph, that's how I see the mobile experience, and not as a reference/citation editing experience, or not for the advanced editing stuffs.

your edit statistics shows well what you say here: https://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user=Nkansahrexford. a typo fixed to test once a year or so. currently i cannot tell you "edit or shut up" because i am not willing to do more mobile edits than you - and this needs to change :) i am a software development person, and i know app or browser editing can be done better, especially for citing references. without taking up screen estate. given my zero contribution to wikimedia software i am not allowed to criticize too much. i only hope asaf is reading us and gets it prioritized higher at WMF *wink wink*

rupert

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Isla,

I wanted to correct my previous email., where I said 4 of the 20 African applicants that passed Phase 2 got scholarships. It was just 1.

I would like to reiterate that geographic regions are not the emphasis of this program. If you and others think there should be a change in future programs, I would encourage you to make this knows to the Scholarship Committee. WMF and the committee will be evaluating the outcomes from this and last year's Wikimania scholarship program later this year. We hope to get your feedback.

Ellie

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Ellie Young eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:

Isla,

I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l soon.

124 Scholarships were awarded.

Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.

Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.

You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?

Ellie Young WMF Events Manager on behalf of the Scholarship Committee

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood < isla@wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:

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Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the WMF, Africa got 4.

FOUR.

that is 0.02% of what was on offer.

Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.

That is just not acceptable.

On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com wrote:

I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.

On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan wikimediaza@greenman.co.za wrote:

...

I applied, also didn't get.

On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:

Hello All

Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.

thanks! Isla

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