Hi Flo,
I am sorry to lean that you had difficult time dealing with tracking participants. Actually, I foresee the challenge in tracking participants from the onset and this is why I earlier proposed something close to option 2. Considering the time and the technicality involves in the tracking, I think we could go with option 3 at this time. I understand that this could be time-consuming but it's not a difficult thing. I could help with it and Interested members of the Wiki Loves Women team could join us. I think we shouldn't leave this task for you alone.
Best,
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-----Original Message----- From: Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:12:00 To: reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Mailing list for African Wikimediansafrican-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] 16WikiWomen Translation Drive
On that matter... to propose a follow up of our prior conversation on the foundation list Isaac... I must confess i have not been able to find anyone to help me create automatically the list of participants to the translation drive.
I have tried myself quite a bit (and failed). A few others have tried as well but obviously could not really figure out how to do the query.
So I am still with my 2 cents question...
* list of all editors (by username) * who edited articles where talk pages are from that category (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translat...) * in a list of languages (the full list is here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages but any query with 2 languages will do. I can then adapt it myself to add the other languages) * between date 1 and date 2 (practically speaking between 20th of Feb and the 08 of March 2017) * information to display : username, article name, language of the article edited
Current best outcome is https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17110
It displays editors to those pages in English only. And no timestamps.
Beside solving the stamping issue, there are basically three options left to get this type of outcome for the whole drive.
1. Option 1 Figure out a way to do that query... not based on the category the articles belong to, but based on the WikiData item. This would probably allow to dig into info from any linguistic version of each article. I have been trying to find someone to help me do that for the past 2 weeks, with no good results. I fail to see why spending hours one more day would make a big difference so I am giving up on that option.
2. Option 2 Add equivalent categories to articles in all linguistic versions so that we could track them with that query model. Main problem is language... I can manage French... that's all. I could add an English based template in Spanish or Catalan I guess. But arabic, punjabi, hebrew... are just... impossible for me. I can't my way to these talk pages. Doing this would probably imply to find someone to help tag the pages for every covered language. Chances to succeed doing that in less than 24 hours are next to zero. What I have been doing in English is adding to all talk page of each article this template : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_16WikiWo... And of course, from a query perspective, we would still have the problem of the timestamp (how to find out the people who edited the biographies AFTER the 19th of February). So we would only get the list of all people who ever edited those articles which is different from "all people who participated".
3. Option 3 Manually go to every single article version and copy paste the username of people who edited the article by hand in the meta page. At the moment, this is the only feasible option. But that would take me the best part of the day probably. And I don't have that.
So... well... that was an experiment and I found it fun generally. But I must admit a failure in tracking participants. It would have been nice but I will not provide figures of "how many people participated" because the current system as is does NOT allow me to find that anwer without spending HOURS digging for it. In theory, there are ways to do that, but in practice, it is simply too time consuming. And I think the time I already spend on this... could have been better spent elsewhere.
Florence
Le 07/03/2017 à 07:20, Olatunde Isaac a écrit :
Dear all,
The 16WikiWomen Translation Drive was covered in Brazilian media yesterday [1].
Congratulations to the organizers and participants.
This is also to remind you that tomorrow is the International Women's Day. Let's celebrate African women together by joining the 16WikiWomen translation Drive. Can't wait to read about African women in local languages.
Best,
Isaac
- www.cartaeducacao.com.br/reportagens/wikipedia-destaca-mulheres-africanas-em-edicao-especial/
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