On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Brian,
The meta process for new project proposals is still the cleanest one
for suggesting a specific Project and presenting it alongside similar
projects.
It would be helpful if you could update a related project proposal on
meta -- say, [[m:WikiBibliography]], if that seems relevant. (I just
cleaned that page up and merged in an older proposal that had been
obfuscated.)
Thanks for your work on this - definitely in the right direction! I will
consider whether I feel it's the right way for me to get started. One point
is that I am pointing more in the direction of a long-form proposal, and I
have more experience writing white-paper proposals for academia. I certainly
want it to end up on wiki, but when TPTB finally read the proposal perhaps
they will find it more persuasive if it is a professional looking document
that lands in their inbox.
Or you can create a new project proposal... WikiCite
as a name can be
confusing, since it has been used to refer to this bibliographic idea,
but also to refer to the idea of citations for every statement or fact
- something closer to a blame or trust solution that includes
citations in its transactions.
Another name that I have come up with is OpenScholar. I still rather like
it, but suspect it has too much of a scientific ring to it? Names are
certainly very important so we should do more work on this avenue. Including
a list of names in the proposal would be a good idea, and perhaps the final
name will be a combination of existing name proposals.
We should figure out how this project would work with
acawiki, and
possibly bibdex. Bibdex doesn't aim to And it would be helpful to
have a publicly-viewable demo to play with -- could you clone your
current wiki and populate the result with dummy data?
The problem with WikiPapers is that it has too many features! A feature-thin
version would be ideal for the proposal though, so I will plan to have some
kind of a demo site available.
I love the idea of having a global place to discuss
citations -- ALL
citations -- something that OpenLibrary, the arXiv, and anyone else
hosting cited documents could point to for every one of its works.
Exactly :)
Brian
Sam.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
<nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Brian J Mingus, 19/07/2010 22:20:
> The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation information
that
> other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then
reference using something
like a
> {{cite}} template or a simple link. The
community can document the
citation,
> the author, the book etc.. and, in one
idealization, all citations
across
> all wikis would point to the same article on
WikiCite. Users can use
this
> wiki as their personal bibliography as well,
as collections of citations
can
be
exported in arbitrary citation formats.
I have already mentioned it before, but this description looks quite
similar to
http://bibdex.org/ . Maybe we should join forces (i.e., send
your proposal also to Sunir Shah).
Nemo
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