On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian,

The meta process for new project proposals is still the cleanest one
for suggesting a specific Project and presenting it alongside similar
projects.

It would be helpful if you could update a related project proposal on
meta -- say, [[m:WikiBibliography]], if that seems relevant.  (I just
cleaned that page up and merged in an older proposal that had been
obfuscated.)


Thanks for your work on this - definitely in the right direction! I will consider whether I feel it's the right way for me to get started. One point is that I am pointing more in the direction of a long-form proposal, and I have more experience writing white-paper proposals for academia. I certainly want it to end up on wiki, but when TPTB finally read the proposal perhaps they will find it more persuasive if it is a professional looking document that lands in their inbox. 
 
Or you can create a new project proposal...  WikiCite as a name can be
confusing, since it has been used to refer to this bibliographic idea,
but also to refer to the idea of citations for every statement or fact
- something closer to a blame or trust solution that includes
citations in its transactions.


Another name that I have come up with is OpenScholar. I still rather like it, but suspect it has too much of a scientific ring to it? Names are certainly very important so we should do more work on this avenue. Including a list of names in the proposal would be a good idea, and perhaps the final name will be a combination of existing name proposals.
 
We should figure out how this project would work with acawiki, and
possibly bibdex.  Bibdex doesn't aim to   And it would be helpful to
have a publicly-viewable demo to play with -- could you clone your
current wiki and populate the result with dummy data?

The problem with WikiPapers is that it has too many features! A feature-thin version would be ideal for the proposal though, so I will plan to have some kind of a demo site available.
 
I love the idea of having a global place to discuss citations -- ALL
citations -- something that OpenLibrary, the arXiv, and anyone else
hosting cited documents could point to for every one of its works.

Exactly :)

Brian 
 
Sam.


On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
<nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brian J Mingus, 19/07/2010 22:20:
>> The basic idea is a centralized wiki that contains citation information that
>> other MediaWikis and WMF projects can then reference using something like a
>> {{cite}} template or a simple link. The community can document the citation,
>> the author, the book etc.. and, in one idealization, all citations across
>> all wikis would point to the same article on WikiCite. Users can use this
>> wiki as their personal bibliography as well, as collections of citations can
>> be exported in arbitrary citation formats.
>
> I have already mentioned it before, but this description looks quite
> similar to http://bibdex.org/ . Maybe we should join forces (i.e., send
> your proposal also to Sunir Shah).
>
> Nemo
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