Spot on description, Sarah, of why not to nominate an article at DYK, "...
drama, rude people, too "complex" of a process for something so simple".
Yup, DYK can be (is) dysfunctional and the DYK project doesn't take
criticism well. But if an article meets its requirements, it will
eventually make it to the main page. So nominating more articles seems to
make sense.
I haven't witnessed gender bias within DYK, i.e. women's biographies don't
appear to be treated differently than men's; self-identified female
nominators don't appear to be treated differently than male nominators. But
if you are aware of a nominator being treated poorly because of her gender,
or really anything related to gender bias within the DYK process, I'd be
very receptive to hearing from you, either through a reply here, or email
me directly.
I appreciate all your feedback -- so keep it coming -- and I will work on a
proposal to tackle this issue. Wish me luck!
-Rosie
user:Rosiestep
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DYK is pretty dysfunctional behind the scenes so I don't think there's any
hope of changing DYK processes to address this issue. What can be done is
to encourage individual WikiProjects addressing the gender gap to include
submitting new and improved articles to DYK as a part of their regular
process of article improvement. It's very easy to get a good article onto
DYK once it is submitted there.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Rosiestep Wiki <rosiestep.wiki(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in
an
> average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this
> because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how
> many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?
> Some statistics here:
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions
> Annually, there's a preponderance
of women's biographies in March
(Women's
History Month). And during the rest of the year,
there's the occasional
set
(6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3
sets) where the majority of the
biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the
course of a week. The reason seems simple: fewer women's biographies are
being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at
DYK.
It almost goes without saying that fewer
women's biographies are
created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address
this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would
not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which
appear
at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that
issue/problem recognition is
the
> first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e.
> monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes.
> I'm considering creating a
proposal and applying for a grant to work on
> this "percentage issue". Feedback?
> -Rosie
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosiestep
>
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