Getting women to stick around...
I had a class of 25. About 20 women and 5 men. The women, especially Latina women, expressed much anxiety over various treatments--all over the map. Esp. comments and tone of talk pages.Lack of politeness and common courtesies. Today, a year later, only 2 (of 20) women are editing, but the men have become engaged contributors.
Should we tell people at the outset that this is sort of an Outward Bound experience? Survival only of the thick skinned? I do believe this is too bad. As a teacher if I treated students the way Wikipedians treat new contributors, I would be sent for continuing education. Most people want to edit to contribute, not to be wrangled to the mat. Too many women who begin to edit are made to feel belittled, stupid and small. This is crazy. So much talent and good will is nattered away.
--Kathleen.
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On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Keilana,
J-mo discussed similar thoughs in the presentation videos that I just sent to some of the other email lists. Perhaps you could brainstorm ideas with him and other interested people at Wikimania?
Pine On Aug 1, 2014 10:37 PM, "Keilana" keilanawiki@gmail.com wrote:
To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that in person hand-holding and social support are the most effective factors in getting women to stick around. I don't know how to translate that from the real-world environment I teach newbies in to the virtual environment of new users' talk pages. I'd love to brainstorm something in that vein, though. :)
-Emily
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM, A. Mani a.mani.cms@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
Then I looked at this political poster image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Courageous_Cunts.jpg which leads to this site http://courageouscunts.com/
I think nobody has bothered to write much on the movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courageous_Cunts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labia_pride_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Labia_Project has no content
Contrast that with the content on this site: http://largelabiaproject.org
Best
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