I'm sorry we lost Arnaud over a conversation like this, the power of conversation is that people do disagree, and sometimes people don't quite like disagreement. --Sarah
I guess Arnaud is a man, although I'm still not sure. I'm not all that firm in rejecting his viewpoint about Islam, which I think has some traction in Europe. Sometimes I wonder whether tolerance of Islam in any form isn't really dumb, but then I think about Muslims I have met though Wikipedia and elsewhere on the internet and know that this is not a black and white issue, as is also not the case with most gender issues.
Fred