Is there any chance Howie or someone could run a similar survey, possibly with a smaller number surveyed, including a gender entry? This would allow us to see if the reasons differ significantly between men and women. Not only that, but the response might provide a clearer indication of the actual demographics of the community, showing what people are willing to identify as in an anonymous, private survey rather than the open domain of Wikipedia.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Oliver Keyes scire.facias@gmail.comwrote:
Brilliant; thanks for this. It doesn't seem to include gender, but I appreciate this is the processed rather than raw result.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Sydney Poore sydney.poore@gmail.comwrote:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Former_Contributors_Survey_Results
Link to result of Formeir contrib survey on the strategic planning wiki
Sydney
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:48 PM, pbeaudette@wikimedia.org < pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Howie has the data I believe.
Philippe Beaudette Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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As said, we need a proper survey on the matter. Surveys are always going to be beset with statistical errors, but this seems a fairly vital thing. I think I mentioned before that, last year, the WMF did a general survey of people who had left Wikipedia and why. I think a good first step would be finding out where that data is and, if it included gender in the filled-out forms, comparing male and female reasons for leaving. If it did not, take the general statistical model and apply it again, including a gender entry, and compare the results.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Sandra ordonez sandratordonez@gmail.comwrote:
I think it does affect women more, but this is just my personal observation. And I should have put "typical response I ve gotten from women." This is why i love wikipedia - really helps you be very aware
of
your language. Thanks Oliver!!
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Oliver Keyes <scire.facias@gmail.com wrote:
Yah, that's what I meant; newbie ignorance isn't a problem. Our
attitude
to newbie ignorance is the problem :P. This is something I think all
new
editors are at risk of (being shouted at and falling off the grid as a result) - I'm not sure why it would affect women more, or if it does
at all.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Dominic dmcdevit@cox.net wrote:
Newbie ignorance is never a problem. All newbies are, by nature, ignorant of our policies and practices. We all started out that way.
And the
great thing about wikis is that that is okay and you can still
contribute.
If anything, the problem is intolerance of newbies. (That may be what
you
really meant anyway, but I think it is better to turn that phrase
"newbie
ignorance" around.)
Dominic
On 2/11/11 5:49 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
"Typical response from some women" should be "a response from a
woman".
So the problem, then, is newbie ignorance about our rules and
policies?
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Sandra ordonez < sandratordonez@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to share. Yesterday I put something on my facebook re: > gender gap. My friend from high school, who totally would be a woman
who
> would enjoy editing an encyclopedia, posted the following: > > > "Whenever I edit it usually gets taken down but some OCD nerd, that > probably wants no one touching "their" site so I stopped bothering." > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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