On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case wrote:
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
K> our "mascot"? An overtly sexualized, large-breasted woman who people K> regularly draw in bikinis and maid costumes? I mean, I know K> Wikipe-tan is not actually The Problem. But she's the most egregious K> example I think we have of the sort of unconscious "boyzone" culture
I had never seen that, and now that I have I find it embarrassing for Wikipedia.
IIRC Wikipe-tan was only originally meant to be the mascot for WikiProject Anime and Manga; how she became the avatar for the project as a whole, I don't know. She's hardly an inclusive or representative figure (I'm not a anime/manga otaku, aside from the other issues) and we can certainly do better.
My own personal notes on signs of a "boyzone" culture at Wikipedia: the appearance of [[Lindsay Lohan]], [[Reese Witherspoon]] and [[Uma Thurman]] as Main Page FAs within a two-year timespan. And also the one FA that Raul quite sensibly (IMO) has decided will never be on the Main Page.
In the same category, there's also the discussion from the top of [[Talk:KaDee Strickland]] downwards, that ensued after that article was on the Main Page. It's hard for me not to see some of it as misogynistic ...
Daniel Case
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The whole Wikipe-tan issue isn't limited to Wikipedia itself either. I participate regularly in the Featured Picture process on Wikimedia Commons, and have lately been struggling against media in a similar vein.[1]
There is a substantial editorial debate around fan art like this that is in flux on Commons. On the one hand, it's relatively easy to make the argument that they're not educational media. However, you still get people who in all seriousness support promotion of media like this with comments such as, "I like her big tits." (That's one extreme example, but it's still a direct quote.)
Additional voices would be welcome, especially since Commons is a much smaller community. I think perhaps one of our first commitments should be to filling the informal leadership gap others have mentioned by stepping up and saying what we find to be unacceptable.[2]
1. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anime_Girl.svg 2. This talk was humorous, but I think there's some truth in the slide: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Steven_Walling_Wikipedia_mascots_-_Ig...
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