Fæ, 10/10/2014 16:44:
[...] a WMF employee make community decisions for us (such as appointing the Jury [...]
I've not inspected the facts in detail, but as far as I could understand this is NOT what happened, so it's a bit annoying to hear you repeat it continuously. I added a summary to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_jury some days ago and I encourage everyone to edit it (with references, where controversial).
I'm sure it will be easier to discuss productively once we've agreed upon the essential facts.
Nemo
I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting with interest to see Fae's comprehensive proposal for reforming the process. Once that proposal has been offered, anyone interested can comment on whether it is an improvement to the current process. If the consensus is that it is, great! If not, then we can move on. If no proposal for change is offered, then there isn't much to discuss.
That seems rather unfair. Fæ is raising some valid points about how this process has taken place this year, which are worth addressing. Dismissing concerns unless there is a comprehensive proposal for reform seems like a reduction to bureaucracy…
Thanks, Mike
On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting with interest to see Fae's comprehensive proposal for reforming the process. Once that proposal has been offered, anyone interested can comment on whether it is an improvement to the current process. If the consensus is that it is, great! If not, then we can move on. If no proposal for change is offered, then there isn't much to discuss. _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
It might be a little unfair, but sniping from the sidelines without offering nay constructive proposal for improvement is not helpful.
Harry Mitchellhttp://enwp.org/User:HJ
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________________________________ From: Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 10 October 2014, 19:45 Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2016 - Jury Announcement and Start of Bidding
That seems rather unfair. Fæ is raising some valid points about how this process has taken place this year, which are worth addressing. Dismissing concerns unless there is a comprehensive proposal for reform seems like a reduction to bureaucracy…
Thanks, Mike
On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:26, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting with interest to see Fae's comprehensive proposal for reforming the process. Once that proposal has been offered, anyone interested can comment on whether it is an improvement to the current process. If the consensus is that it is, great! If not, then we can move on. If no proposal for change is offered, then there isn't much to discuss. _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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