Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
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The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hkwrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system. On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France, mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 € (+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800 €.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
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Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk wrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France, mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 € (+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800 €.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
-- Sincerely, Shujen Chang
-- Sincerely, Shujen Chang
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On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk wrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France, mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 € (+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800 €.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
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I hate you, now I'm considering it.
That being said, it would more expensive than the plane from the price I could find (as the tickets are one way tickets and the plane it's a round trip) and that it doesn't all the extras you'd have over the two weeks.
But still, that is an awesome idea :D
-- Christophe
On 19 January 2013 00:16, Sven svenmanguard@gmail.com wrote:
wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm...
On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of
the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to
Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those
with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk
wrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction
of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction
until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on
conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for
convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to
Hung Hom.
Best regards,
Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have
switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is
slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway
Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China,
than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong.
I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join
you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line.
and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the
Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train
through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France,
mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel
can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be
more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 €
(+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800
€.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think
about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in
Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
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Sincerely,
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Email: andrew@andrewlih.comandrew@andrewlih.com
WEB: http://www.andrewlih.comhttp://www.andrewlih.com
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This sounds like an amazing adventure, A couple of years ago this would have been very tempting, I envy those of you who will go this way. If there are several of you it might be possible to sort out WiFi perhaps one of those satellite connections?
WSC
On 19 January 2013 00:41, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.comwrote:
I hate you, now I'm considering it.
That being said, it would more expensive than the plane from the price I could find (as the tickets are one way tickets and the plane it's a round trip) and that it doesn't all the extras you'd have over the two weeks.
But still, that is an awesome idea :D
-- Christophe
On 19 January 2013 00:16, Sven svenmanguard@gmail.com wrote:
wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm...
On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of
the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to
Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those
with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk
wrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction
of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction
until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on
conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for
convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to
Hung Hom.
Best regards,
Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have
switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is
slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway
Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China,
than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong.
I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join
you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line.
and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the
Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train
through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France,
mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel
can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be
more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 €
(+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800
€.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think
about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in
Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
Wikimania-l mailing list
Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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Sincerely,
Shujen Chang
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Email: andrew@andrewlih.comandrew@andrewlih.com
WEB: http://www.andrewlih.comhttp://www.andrewlih.com
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There's no Wifi support on Chinese train, but I think I can share it via my 3G mobile phone.
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:33 PM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
This sounds like an amazing adventure, A couple of years ago this would have been very tempting, I envy those of you who will go this way. If there are several of you it might be possible to sort out WiFi perhaps one of those satellite connections?
WSC
On 19 January 2013 00:41, Christophe Henner christophe.henner@gmail.comwrote:
I hate you, now I'm considering it.
That being said, it would more expensive than the plane from the price I could find (as the tickets are one way tickets and the plane it's a round trip) and that it doesn't all the extras you'd have over the two weeks.
But still, that is an awesome idea :D
-- Christophe
On 19 January 2013 00:16, Sven svenmanguard@gmail.com wrote:
wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm...
On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos)
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of
the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University.
If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to
Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those
with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk
wrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction
of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction
until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on
conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for
convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to
Hung Hom.
Best regards,
Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have
switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is
slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway
Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China,
than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong.
I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join
you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line.
and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the
Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train
through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France,
mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel
can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be
more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 €
(+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800
€.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think
about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in
Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
~ Seb35 [^_^]
Wikimania-l mailing list
Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
--
Sincerely,
Shujen Chang
--
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WEB: http://www.andrewlih.comhttp://www.andrewlih.com
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On Jan 19, 2013 3:14 PM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's no Wifi support on Chinese train, but I think I can share it via
my 3G mobile phone.
What is the 3g coverage like? Presumably the train spends a lot of time going through very rural areas - will you get a signal there?
Dear Thomas,
On 19 Jan, 2013, at 23:21, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 19, 2013 3:14 PM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's no Wifi support on Chinese train, but I think I can share it via my 3G mobile phone.
What is the 3g coverage like? Presumably the train spends a lot of time going through very rural areas - will you get a signal there?
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have pictures from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive. The triopoly of Chinese mobile telecom have worked very hard to blanket the country with 3G signals after their 2G is mostly done. China Mobile is the largest of the three but their 3G is of a national TD-SCDMA which isn't compatible to most 3G phones. However, you can get EDGE almost everywhere you get a China Mobile signal. China Unicom with its WCDMA standard might be concentrated more in urban areas but it's still extensive. China Telecom with its EVDO1x standard is suitable for Americans with their Verizon and Sprint phones.
OTOH, I think Russia is less likely to have any phone signal blanketing the Trans-Siberian as it's a much larger country with a lower population density than China. And Mongolia too. You might consider bringing a satellite modem, which would also come handy if you want to break through the Great Fire Wall in China.
Best regards, Alan
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On Jan 19, 2013 3:48 PM, "Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia)" alancylai@wikimedia.hk wrote:
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have pictures
from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive.
I know coverage in urban areas is pretty good, but have they really got good coverage in rural areas? That would require far more investment in mobile infrastructure that we've had in the UK!
Thomas,
The cell coverage is quite excellent in China especially when compared to the US. In fact, the rural areas of China are paid attention to in particular since the legitimacy of the telco duopoly rests on supplying universal coverage.
A number of years ago, I was traveling from Guilin down to a small town in southern China by river. It would be several hours on a boat, creeping down the stream surrounded by the steep karst mountain valleys you see in postcards. The problem: I needed to make a crucial phone conference call at a particular time, while in transit on the five hour boat ride. I figured it'd be impossible to get a cell signal.
I asked the hotel concierge before I left, "Is there a small town I could stop in and make a landline call?"
He looked at me quite confused, and said there should be cell phone coverage the entire way.
He was right -- during the 5 hour ride, I never saw less than 80% signal reception and the phone call was crystal clear. All throughout China in rural and isolated areas, it's common and expected to get wireless signal.
Don't even get me started on how bad the US is in this regard. :)
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
On Jan 19, 2013 3:48 PM, "Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia)" < alancylai@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have pictures
from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive.
I know coverage in urban areas is pretty good, but have they really got good coverage in rural areas? That would require far more investment in mobile infrastructure that we've had in the UK!
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Hey,
I don't know if anyone from India is planning the same or not. But I think its difficult to enter China from India via Road or rail network due to the relations between two countries and of course not forgetting about Tibet ;)
But it seems pretty interesting so I did search a little and found that one Chinese guy actually did this and shared it on his blog. Sharing those links with you
1. http://www.indiamike.com/india/indian-railways-f10/china-to-bangladesh-by-la...
2. http://www.yaohua2000.org/2010/20101222/en-1.html
Please do let me know if anyone from India is up for this adventure :) (Or anyone from Europe planning to go China via India)
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
Thomas,
The cell coverage is quite excellent in China especially when compared to the US. In fact, the rural areas of China are paid attention to in particular since the legitimacy of the telco duopoly rests on supplying universal coverage.
A number of years ago, I was traveling from Guilin down to a small town in southern China by river. It would be several hours on a boat, creeping down the stream surrounded by the steep karst mountain valleys you see in postcards. The problem: I needed to make a crucial phone conference call at a particular time, while in transit on the five hour boat ride. I figured it'd be impossible to get a cell signal.
I asked the hotel concierge before I left, "Is there a small town I could stop in and make a landline call?"
He looked at me quite confused, and said there should be cell phone coverage the entire way.
He was right -- during the 5 hour ride, I never saw less than 80% signal reception and the phone call was crystal clear. All throughout China in rural and isolated areas, it's common and expected to get wireless signal.
Don't even get me started on how bad the US is in this regard. :)
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
On Jan 19, 2013 3:48 PM, "Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia)" < alancylai@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have
pictures from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive.
I know coverage in urban areas is pretty good, but have they really got good coverage in rural areas? That would require far more investment in mobile infrastructure that we've had in the UK!
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I am planning to join the wikitrain from India. Lets see if things figure out!
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Hey,
I don't know if anyone from India is planning the same or not. But I think its difficult to enter China from India via Road or rail network due to the relations between two countries and of course not forgetting about Tibet ;)
But it seems pretty interesting so I did search a little and found that one Chinese guy actually did this and shared it on his blog. Sharing those links with you
http://www.indiamike.com/india/indian-railways-f10/china-to-bangladesh-by-la...
Please do let me know if anyone from India is up for this adventure :) (Or anyone from Europe planning to go China via India)
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
Thomas,
The cell coverage is quite excellent in China especially when compared to the US. In fact, the rural areas of China are paid attention to in particular since the legitimacy of the telco duopoly rests on supplying universal coverage.
A number of years ago, I was traveling from Guilin down to a small town in southern China by river. It would be several hours on a boat, creeping down the stream surrounded by the steep karst mountain valleys you see in postcards. The problem: I needed to make a crucial phone conference call at a particular time, while in transit on the five hour boat ride. I figured it'd be impossible to get a cell signal.
I asked the hotel concierge before I left, "Is there a small town I could stop in and make a landline call?"
He looked at me quite confused, and said there should be cell phone coverage the entire way.
He was right -- during the 5 hour ride, I never saw less than 80% signal reception and the phone call was crystal clear. All throughout China in rural and isolated areas, it's common and expected to get wireless signal.
Don't even get me started on how bad the US is in this regard. :)
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
On Jan 19, 2013 3:48 PM, "Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia)" < alancylai@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have
pictures from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive.
I know coverage in urban areas is pretty good, but have they really got good coverage in rural areas? That would require far more investment in mobile infrastructure that we've had in the UK!
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That's impressive! To be clear, I was comparing to the UK, not US - we have much higher population density and are still rubbish! On Jan 19, 2013 10:31 PM, "Andrew Lih" andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
Thomas,
The cell coverage is quite excellent in China especially when compared to the US. In fact, the rural areas of China are paid attention to in particular since the legitimacy of the telco duopoly rests on supplying universal coverage.
A number of years ago, I was traveling from Guilin down to a small town in southern China by river. It would be several hours on a boat, creeping down the stream surrounded by the steep karst mountain valleys you see in postcards. The problem: I needed to make a crucial phone conference call at a particular time, while in transit on the five hour boat ride. I figured it'd be impossible to get a cell signal.
I asked the hotel concierge before I left, "Is there a small town I could stop in and make a landline call?"
He looked at me quite confused, and said there should be cell phone coverage the entire way.
He was right -- during the 5 hour ride, I never saw less than 80% signal reception and the phone call was crystal clear. All throughout China in rural and isolated areas, it's common and expected to get wireless signal.
Don't even get me started on how bad the US is in this regard. :)
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
On Jan 19, 2013 3:48 PM, "Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia)" < alancylai@wikimedia.hk> wrote:
3G coverage in China is fairly decent I think - if you can have
pictures from things like gridlocks on motorways to riots in towns on Weibo or other online forums fairly quickly then you can see that the mobile coverage is extensive.
I know coverage in urban areas is pretty good, but have they really got good coverage in rural areas? That would require far more investment in mobile infrastructure that we've had in the UK!
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Thanks for your advices; I hope share the trip with some of you. I began a page to coordinate https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitrain
Regarding the prices of the train I found it is very (very) varying, from 150 € to 4300 €, and depends of many parameters like if it is a global ticket or tickets for local sections, if you buy it on the Web or in train stations, if you speak Russian, the period in the year, etc. so a deeper investigation is needed.
Seb35
Le 19/01/2013 14:33, WereSpielChequers a écrit :
This sounds like an amazing adventure, A couple of years ago this would have been very tempting, I envy those of you who will go this way. If there are several of you it might be possible to sort out WiFi perhaps one of those satellite connections?
WSC
On 19 January 2013 00:41, Christophe Henner <christophe.henner@gmail.com mailto:christophe.henner@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate you, now I'm considering it. That being said, it would more expensive than the plane from the price I could find (as the tickets are one way tickets and the plane it's a round trip) and that it doesn't all the extras you'd have over the two weeks. But still, that is an awesome idea :D -- Christophe On 19 January 2013 00:16, Sven <svenmanguard@gmail.com <mailto:svenmanguard@gmail.com>> wrote: wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm... On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria@gmail.com <mailto:pharosofalexandria@gmail.com>> wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Lih <andrew@andrewlih.com <mailto:andrew@andrewlih.com>> wrote:
The good news is the train to Hung Hom is (literally!) on the doorstep of the Wikimania venue at HK Polytechnic University. If you plan it out well, you could spend time in Beijing, overnight train to Shanghai, spend time there, then overnight again to HK/Hung Hom. For those with the time in their schedule, it sounds like a great trip. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Alan C Y Lai <alancylai@wikimedia.hk <mailto:alancylai@wikimedia.hk>> wrote:
Dear All, I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom. Best regards, Alan Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com <mailto:deryckchan@gmail.com>> wrote: IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system. On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" <i@blue.cat <mailto:i@blue.cat>> wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang <i@blue.cat <mailto:i@blue.cat>> wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 <seb35wikipedia@gmail.com <mailto:seb35wikipedia@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hello, Добрый день, > > Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) > travelled by train > through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania. > > This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train > from France, > mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese > trains. The travel > can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train > :), but it would be > more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to > be about 300-400 € > (+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than > the airtravel of ~800 > €. > > Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if > you want think > about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we > could join in > Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :) > > ~ Seb35 [^_^] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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Seb35, 19/01/2013 17:15:
Thanks for your advices; I hope share the trip with some of you. I began a page to coordinate https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitrain
Regarding the prices of the train I found it is very (very) varying, from 150 € to 4300 €, and depends of many parameters like if it is a global ticket or tickets for local sections, if you buy it on the Web or in train stations, if you speak Russian, the period in the year, etc. so a deeper investigation is needed.
Also if you stop or not between the different sections, I heard?
Nemo
The stops can depend of you ticket and possibly of your visa from what I heard, but I’m not sure the ticket is more expansive if you stop or not (but obviously if you need a dorm in a town it costs money).
Seb35
Le 19/01/2013 17:27, Federico Leva (Nemo) a écrit :
Seb35, 19/01/2013 17:15:
Thanks for your advices; I hope share the trip with some of you. I began a page to coordinate https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitrain
Regarding the prices of the train I found it is very (very) varying, from 150 € to 4300 €, and depends of many parameters like if it is a global ticket or tickets for local sections, if you buy it on the Web or in train stations, if you speak Russian, the period in the year, etc. so a deeper investigation is needed.
Also if you stop or not between the different sections, I heard?
Nemo
BTW I just wanted to encourage those of you posting in this thread to update the relevant pages on Wikivoyage. :-)
Sven, 19/01/2013 00:16:
wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm...
FYI, trans-siberian cargo transport by train is very insecure (due to stops and thefts) and needs high insurance, so don't try to sneak in a trans-siberian wiki-shippingcontainer! The new Deutsche Bahn fast cargo train is supposed to deal with it but, to answer Sumana, I can't write about it on Wikivoyage due to family COI. :-p
Nemo
On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
I once heard that shipping a container from China to Germany costs approx. 400 Euros. If we are enough and had enough time...
Cheers
Marco
On 01/19/13 18:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
Sven, 19/01/2013 00:16:
wiki-shippingcontainers? Umm...
FYI, trans-siberian cargo transport by train is very insecure (due to stops and thefts) and needs high insurance, so don't try to sneak in a trans-siberian wiki-shippingcontainer! The new Deutsche Bahn fast cargo train is supposed to deal with it but, to answer Sumana, I can't write about it on Wikivoyage due to family COI. :-p
Nemo
On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Pharos wrote:
Someone needs to start a historical list of wiki-trains, wiki-buses, and wiki-shippingcontainers on a page on Meta.
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Marco Fleckinger, 20/01/2013 03:07:
I once heard that shipping a container from China to Germany costs approx. 400 Euros. If we are enough and had enough time...
No, it's more, maybe you mean from Germany to China and only ship freight (then it could be possible in some periods).
Nemo
Seems the ticket of Beijing-Kowloon Through Train can only be bought from Beijing West Train Station or Hong Kong Station, and cannot be reserved via internet. But the ticket of Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Rail can be reserved via 12306.cn website, and Guangzhou-Hongkong Through Train can be reserved via mtr.com.hk website. I'm afraid it is very difficult to buy the train ticket from Chinese train station, because there're always many people buying tickets.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hkwrote:
Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system. On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote:
There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, Добрый день,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train through Europe to join Gdańsk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France, mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 € (+food, visas, etc…), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800 €.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
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Dear Shujen,
Ah yes, tickets. Beijing-Hong Kong Through Trains tickets are only available from respective departing station or some travel agencies in China I think. The train is fairly popular for tours and school trips which meant it's often fully booked very quickly once the booking window opens 90 days before departure.
On the other hand, 12306.cn is not really usable for those without Chinese bank accounts/credit cards, and it3.mtr.com.hk requires you to pick up the tickets in Hong Kong with your credit card, so both online booking options aren't viable for this Wikitrain trip planning.
Best regards, Alan Sent on the road
On 19 Jan, 2013, at 23:12, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote:
Seems the ticket of Beijing-Kowloon Through Train can only be bought from Beijing West Train Station or Hong Kong Station, and cannot be reserved via internet. But the ticket of Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Rail can be reserved via 12306.cn website, and Guangzhou-Hongkong Through Train can be reserved via mtr.com.hk website. I'm afraid it is very difficult to buy the train ticket from Chinese train station, because there're always many people buying tickets.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Alan C Y Lai alancylai@wikimedia.hk wrote: Dear All,
I'm afraid that Deryck Chan is overtly optimistic about the construction of High Speed Rail in Hong Kong. As the line is still under construction until 2015, the Beijing-Hong Kong through train will still be on conventional lines during Wikimania 2013. And I strongly urge for convenience and comfortability sake you'd better take the through train to Hung Hom.
Best regards, Alan
Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC by Wikimania 2013 the Hong Kong-Beijing direct train will have switched to the high speed system.
On Jan 18, 2013 7:55 AM, "Shujen Chang" i@blue.cat wrote: There's also a railway line from Beijing to Kowloon, but that line is slower and less confortable than the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway Line.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Shujen Chang i@blue.cat wrote: I recommend you take the Beijing-Guangzhou High Speed Railway in China, than you can transfer train from Guangzhou to Hong Kong. I'm planning to train to Hong Kong to (from China), so maybe I can join you in Beijing-Guangzhou&Guangzhou-Hong Kong line. and attention, you must apply for a Chinese visa if passing China, the Hong Kong visa is not valid in China.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com wrote: Hello, ����ҧ���� �է֧ߧ�,
Three years ago some crazy Wikimedians (whose I was) travelled by train through Europe to join Gda��sk for Wikimania.
This year I intend to join Wikimania Hong Kong by train from France, mainly with the Trans-Siberian Railway and the Chinese trains. The travel can take a minimum of about 2 weeks (of intensive train :), but it would be more comfortable to take more time; the price seems to be about 300-400 � (+food, visas, etc��), so probably less or similar than the airtravel of ~800 �.
Does anyone is interested to join me? You have time if you want think about. If we are some people interested in Europe, we could join in Deutschland before continuing the 10k km :)
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