If I install the appropriate Firefox plugin, I see a "download" link. Does the TOS say that isn't a valid download link?
IANAL, but I suppose they could say that wasn't "displayed by YouTube" and then we get into the semantics and details of how a link is displayed and -- especially if you are a naive user using someone else's computer with the plugin installed -- how you can tell if the link you see is "displayed by YouTube."
Oh, but wait. I think this rabbit hole is already too deep. I'll stop digging.
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Yes, that's related to copyright and permissions of the material, but what about that first sentence:
You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content
-Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew@andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http:// www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
Will it be a good idea if the wmf or Wikimania writes to YouTube to asked of much details or rights for that?
If the tos is in certain areas ambiguous, I think one can take advantage of that. There are many sites I've noticed that allows one to input YouTube link and it'll allow to download. YouTube hasn't arrested such ones?
Even critically saying, viewing a YouTube video, I'm downloading, because it grabs files from the server, sends it in chunks, "is downloaded" onto my PC, and I watch, just that its streaming without saving permanently to the harddrive.
Rexford | Africa Center | wikiafrica.net | sent from Tab On Jan 21, 2014 8:12 PM, "Mark A. Hershberger" mah@everybody.org wrote:
If I install the appropriate Firefox plugin, I see a "download" link. Does the TOS say that isn't a valid download link?
IANAL, but I suppose they could say that wasn't "displayed by YouTube" and then we get into the semantics and details of how a link is displayed and -- especially if you are a naive user using someone else's computer with the plugin installed -- how you can tell if the link you see is "displayed by YouTube."
Oh, but wait. I think this rabbit hole is already too deep. I'll stop digging.
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Yes, that's related to copyright and permissions of the material, but
what
about that first sentence:
You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content
-Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew@andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http:// www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
Nowhere in the castle of science is there a final exit to absolute truth. -- Memories of Kurt Godel, http://hexm.de/25m8
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On January 21, 2014, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Will it be a good idea if the wmf or Wikimania writes to YouTube to asked of much details or rights for that?
If the tos is in certain areas ambiguous, I think one can take advantage of that. There are many sites I've noticed that allows one to input YouTube link and it'll allow to download. YouTube hasn't arrested such ones?
As far as I know, Youtube does not have the authority to arrest anyone anywhere, so having that as a metric on whether it is allowed is probably useless.
/Jan
Even critically saying, viewing a YouTube video, I'm downloading, because it grabs files from the server, sends it in chunks, "is downloaded" onto my PC, and I watch, just that its streaming without saving permanently to the harddrive.
Rexford | Africa Center | http://wikiafrica.net | sent from Tab
On Jan 21, 2014 8:12 PM, "Mark A. Hershberger" <mah@everybody.org> wrote:
If I install the appropriate Firefox plugin, I see a "download" link. Does the TOS say that isn't a valid download link?
IANAL, but I suppose they could say that wasn't "displayed by YouTube" and then we get into the semantics and details of how a link is displayed and -- especially if you are a naive user using someone else's computer with the plugin installed -- how you can tell if the link you see is "displayed by YouTube."
Oh, but wait. I think this rabbit hole is already too deep. I'll stop digging.
----- Original Message -----
Yes, that's related to copyright and permissions of the material, but what about that first sentence:
You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content
-Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew@andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http:// http://www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
Nowhere in the castle of science is there a final exit to absolute truth. -- Memories of Kurt Godel, http://hexm.de/25m8
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