Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got
the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get
his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons
from
semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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Granted the US visa procedures are a bit nuts! :)
Joe
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On 16 August 2013 09:45, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got
the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get
his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event.
This
brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the
local
organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons
from
semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
AIUI, there really wasn't much help from the state department for visas. (they did help in a number of ways but I think that wasn't one of them)
-Jeremy
Also, if anyone is interested in working out if they need a visa for next year in London, you should see if your country is listed as a "visa national" country in the "More Information" section of this page: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/general/visa/
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On 16 August 2013 09:56, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
AIUI, there really wasn't much help from the state department for visas. (they did help in a number of ways but I think that wasn't one of them)
-Jeremy
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One more thing - if you're from a "visa national" country that is not Cuba, Malawi, North Korea, Turkmenistan or Zimbabwe, you can apply online for the visa, which is pretty cool I guess?
*Joseph Fox* enwp.org/user:foxj
On 16 August 2013 09:59, Joseph Fox josephfoxwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Also, if anyone is interested in working out if they need a visa for next year in London, you should see if your country is listed as a "visa national" country in the "More Information" section of this page: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/general/visa/
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On 16 August 2013 09:56, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
AIUI, there really wasn't much help from the state department for visas. (they did help in a number of ways but I think that wasn't one of them)
-Jeremy
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Applying online doesn't give the visa. Rather meeting the consular does. That's where the assistance can be vital and is much needed. On Aug 16, 2013 5:04 PM, "Joseph Fox" josephfoxwiki@gmail.com wrote:
One more thing - if you're from a "visa national" country that is not Cuba, Malawi, North Korea, Turkmenistan or Zimbabwe, you can apply online for the visa, which is pretty cool I guess?
*Joseph Fox* enwp.org/user:foxj
On 16 August 2013 09:59, Joseph Fox josephfoxwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Also, if anyone is interested in working out if they need a visa for next year in London, you should see if your country is listed as a "visa national" country in the "More Information" section of this page: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/general/visa/
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On 16 August 2013 09:56, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
AIUI, there really wasn't much help from the state department for visas. (they did help in a number of ways but I think that wasn't one of them)
-Jeremy
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Unfortunately, in my case, it was only one way - a way that doesn't speak much in our local environment in terms of serious documents such as visas.
I was disappointed, to experience the definition of 'visa assistance' executed in such a manner.
Other organizations made it and makes it work for their members who they wish to travel to the US for conferences and events. But for Wikimania, it was a different experience. On Aug 16, 2013 4:56 PM, "Jeremy Baron" jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
AIUI, there really wasn't much help from the state department for visas. (they did help in a number of ways but I think that wasn't one of them)
-Jeremy
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The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement.
'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another.
What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got
the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get
his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event.
This
brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the
local
organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons
from
semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
Rexford
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Nkansah,
I have been to more than 10 different embassies and in my experience, I have learnt that there is only so much that a third party can do to expedite the visa application process. So if I were you, I'd focus on finding out what _you_ did wrong in your last visa application, and start refining how you will make a better visa application next time. Because ultimately, the consular officer's decision will be made on how _you_ present your case.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:38:22 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement. 'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another. What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa
in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in
time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the
government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This
brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local
organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of
inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping
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I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from
semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
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There's no dedicated honk Kong embassy in Ghana. Chinese embassy wasn't functional during the period of visa applications.
However with the support of visa assistance from the organizing team, a Ghanaian could attend the conference even with less than 3 weeks to time.
The secret? The HK organization proved the real visa assistance I know of. She didn't visit any embassy nor consular - all she did was to fill a form. But she got her visa just in time. Her application was even mailed physically.
The need for her to present her case wasn't even available in her case, simply because HK visa assistance was real, practical, and timely.
After presenting the best of my case also, a case presented from the other side ( or the inviting organization ) is essential.
If one is traveling on his own will, its a different ball game compared to winning a scholarship for conference. In the latter instance, much work is involved in assisting in visa.
Rexford On Aug 17, 2013 3:31 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Nkansah,
I have been to more than 10 different embassies and in my experience, I have learnt that there is only so much that a third party can do to expedite the visa application process. So if I were you, I'd focus on finding out what _you_ did wrong in your last visa application, and start refining how you will make a better visa application next time. Because ultimately, the consular officer's decision will be made on how _you_ present your case.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:38:22 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement.
'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another.
What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
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Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from semi-banned countries like Ghana attend such wonderful events.
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Well, I should have beeen more specific: I was referring to the European/American/Western context. Just to give you a heads up: don't expect the British Embassy to process your visa application the way Hong Kong does.
Abbas.
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:59:38 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
There's no dedicated honk Kong embassy in Ghana. Chinese embassy wasn't functional during the period of visa applications. However with the support of visa assistance from the organizing team, a Ghanaian could attend the conference even with less than 3 weeks to time. The secret? The HK organization proved the real visa assistance I know of. She didn't visit any embassy nor consular - all she did was to fill a form. But she got her visa just in time. Her application was even mailed physically.
The need for her to present her case wasn't even available in her case, simply because HK visa assistance was real, practical, and timely. After presenting the best of my case also, a case presented from the other side ( or the inviting organization ) is essential. If one is traveling on his own will, its a different ball game compared to winning a scholarship for conference. In the latter instance, much work is involved in assisting in visa. Rexford On Aug 17, 2013 3:31 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Nkansah,
I have been to more than 10 different embassies and in my experience, I have learnt that there is only so much that a third party can do to expedite the visa application process. So if I were you, I'd focus on finding out what _you_ did wrong in your last visa application, and start refining how you will make a better visa application next time. Because ultimately, the consular officer's decision will be made on how _you_ present your case.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:38:22 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement. 'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another. What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa
in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in
time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the
government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the
visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his
visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This
brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local
organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of
inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking
countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is adopted
and improved upon by LOCs of upcoming Wikimanias to enable persons from
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+1 On 17 Aug 2013 09:21, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Well, I should have beeen more specific: I was referring to the European/American/Western context. Just to give you a heads up: don't expect the British Embassy to process your visa application the way Hong Kong does.
Abbas.
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:59:38 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
There's no dedicated honk Kong embassy in Ghana. Chinese embassy wasn't functional during the period of visa applications.
However with the support of visa assistance from the organizing team, a Ghanaian could attend the conference even with less than 3 weeks to time.
The secret? The HK organization proved the real visa assistance I know of. She didn't visit any embassy nor consular - all she did was to fill a form. But she got her visa just in time. Her application was even mailed physically.
The need for her to present her case wasn't even available in her case, simply because HK visa assistance was real, practical, and timely.
After presenting the best of my case also, a case presented from the other side ( or the inviting organization ) is essential.
If one is traveling on his own will, its a different ball game compared to winning a scholarship for conference. In the latter instance, much work is involved in assisting in visa.
Rexford On Aug 17, 2013 3:31 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Nkansah,
I have been to more than 10 different embassies and in my experience, I have learnt that there is only so much that a third party can do to expedite the visa application process. So if I were you, I'd focus on finding out what _you_ did wrong in your last visa application, and start refining how you will make a better visa application next time. Because ultimately, the consular officer's decision will be made on how _you_ present your case.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:38:22 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement.
'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another.
What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
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Thank you.
I wouldn't expect it the way the HK goes. However, I would expect visa assistance from the inviting organization; a strong visa assistance.
Rex On Aug 17, 2013 8:21 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Well, I should have beeen more specific: I was referring to the European/American/Western context. Just to give you a heads up: don't expect the British Embassy to process your visa application the way Hong Kong does.
Abbas.
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:59:38 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
There's no dedicated honk Kong embassy in Ghana. Chinese embassy wasn't functional during the period of visa applications.
However with the support of visa assistance from the organizing team, a Ghanaian could attend the conference even with less than 3 weeks to time.
The secret? The HK organization proved the real visa assistance I know of. She didn't visit any embassy nor consular - all she did was to fill a form. But she got her visa just in time. Her application was even mailed physically.
The need for her to present her case wasn't even available in her case, simply because HK visa assistance was real, practical, and timely.
After presenting the best of my case also, a case presented from the other side ( or the inviting organization ) is essential.
If one is traveling on his own will, its a different ball game compared to winning a scholarship for conference. In the latter instance, much work is involved in assisting in visa.
Rexford On Aug 17, 2013 3:31 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Nkansah,
I have been to more than 10 different embassies and in my experience, I have learnt that there is only so much that a third party can do to expedite the visa application process. So if I were you, I'd focus on finding out what _you_ did wrong in your last visa application, and start refining how you will make a better visa application next time. Because ultimately, the consular officer's decision will be made on how _you_ present your case.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 22:38:22 +0000 From: nkansahrexford@gmail.com To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa Acquisition Assistance
The expression "normal US visa procedures" is a relative statement.
'Normal' in one country can be 'abnormal' in another.
What then is a 'normal' visa procedure for US? On Aug 16, 2013 4:45 PM, "Lodewijk" lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Please read this in context: compared to normal US visa procedures.
2013/8/16 Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
" ..-Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly"
Really? You think so? I don't think so. On Aug 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Deryck Chan" deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
No, the person who didn't receive his visa on time submitted everything well ahead of the deadline. It was their local Chinese Embassy which was being generally unhelpful and delaying the application beyond Wikimania.
Since the application was stuck at the embassy rather than Hong Kong, there was basically nothing we can do from the Hong Kong side.
The advantage of Hong Kong was that the vast majority of Wikimaniacs did not require visas to enter Hong Kong. But the disadvantage is that Hong Kong is not an independent sovereign state, therefore the bureaucracy is extra-difficult to navigate through for the few who did need visas. This is the opposite problem of Wikimania DC - huge amounts of people needed visas, but Wikimania had the support of the state department so the bureaucracy was handled quite smoothly.
Deryck
On 16 August 2013 00:31, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
I think I have to clarify a thing: the guy that couldn't get his visa in time There was just one reason. he didn't send his documents in time. It wasn't the committee's fault at all or policy of the government
Best
On 8/15/13, Deryck Chan deryckchan@gmail.com wrote:
Next year, WMF and Wikimania London are hiring the company which got the visas for everyone in London Olympics! Fingers crossed.
Also, unfortunately, this year we did have one person who didn't get his visa on time. One is too many for Hong Kong! :(
On 15 August 2013 16:02, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
Without doubt, Wikimania HK has been a successful one.
For the first time, a Ghanaian from Ghana could attend the event. This brings us much joy.
That wouldn't have been possible without the keen support of the local organizing team in terms of Visa acquisition. Though through a lot of inconveniences in acquiring Visa, Ghana was represented.
I see their support as a very practical and effective approach in
helping
countries like ourselves obtaining a visa to enter such high-ranking countries.
I believe and hope such visa assistance mechanism and approach is
adopted
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