A few weeks ago, the people who came to the first IRC discussion agreed broadly to alternate meeting times between 2200 and 1600 UTC to help people from different time zones make it at least every other meeting. We didn't discuss ideal days of the week too much... at the moment, meetings are scheduled for Saturdays, with the next one for 2200 UTC on Saturday, Dec 3. If this isn't a good day/time for you, please suggest alternatives.
We should also schedule another day to discuss program details further. It would be nice to have by then specific ideas about what the CfP should look like -- what guidelines to give submitters -- and what the submission process should be like (sent to what address; or via what web-processing system). For those of you interested in the program, what days are good for you to meet?
Speaking of which... can anyone access the wikimania-cfp list on OTRS? The address still works, but I can't see it in OTRS atm.
++SJ
Do people mind if we have the meeting on the saturday either before or after this so that the every-other-weekend happens on the opposite weekends we have now? (The change can start any time). If people don't mind this too much, I'd really appreciate it. If not, that's okay too.
On 11/25/05, SJ 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
A few weeks ago, the people who came to the first IRC discussion agreed broadly to alternate meeting times between 2200 and 1600 UTC to help people from different time zones make it at least every other meeting. We didn't discuss ideal days of the week too much... at the moment, meetings are scheduled for Saturdays, with the next one for 2200 UTC on Saturday, Dec 3. If this isn't a good day/time for you, please suggest alternatives.
We should also schedule another day to discuss program details further. It would be nice to have by then specific ideas about what the CfP should look like -- what guidelines to give submitters -- and what the submission process should be like (sent to what address; or via what web-processing system). For those of you interested in the program, what days are good for you to meet?
Speaking of which... can anyone access the wikimania-cfp list on OTRS? The address still works, but I can't see it in OTRS atm.
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SJ wrote:
A few weeks ago, the people who came to the first IRC discussion agreed broadly to alternate meeting times between 2200 and 1600 UTC to help people from different time zones make it at least every other meeting. We didn't discuss ideal days of the week too much... at the moment, meetings are scheduled for Saturdays, with the next one for 2200 UTC on Saturday, Dec 3. If this isn't a good day/time for you, please suggest alternatives.
For me anytime after Dec. 3 will be fine.
I'm concerned that there is a perception that things are moving fast in an unauthorized manner, and I'm concerned that there will be hurt feelings if people think they are making decisions when they are really not at all authorized to do so.
So I think it's important that I be involved here very soon.
--Jimbo
Fair enough. What do you propose we do to stem this problem? A discussion on-wiki, perhaps? More involvement on Meta? A site notice? What do we do to make this more democratic?
On 11/25/05, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
SJ wrote:
A few weeks ago, the people who came to the first IRC discussion agreed broadly to alternate meeting times between 2200 and 1600 UTC to help people from different time zones make it at least every other meeting. We didn't discuss ideal days of the week too much... at the moment, meetings are scheduled for Saturdays, with the next one for 2200 UTC on Saturday, Dec 3. If this isn't a good day/time for you, please suggest alternatives.
For me anytime after Dec. 3 will be fine.
I'm concerned that there is a perception that things are moving fast in an unauthorized manner, and I'm concerned that there will be hurt feelings if people think they are making decisions when they are really not at all authorized to do so.
So I think it's important that I be involved here very soon.
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On 11/26/05, mysekurity mysekurity@gmail.com wrote:
Fair enough. What do you propose we do to stem this problem? A discussion on-wiki, perhaps? More involvement on Meta? A site notice? What do we do to make this more democratic?
Perhaps instead of another real-time meeting, we could work on a list of open questions on Meta, and on organizing existing information there (old reports, archived content from meta and the wikimania-wiki; related discussions that were held last year). That might feel less 'fast', without bias towards IRC users, while taking care of some important follow-up work and avoiding duplicated effort.
SJ
Agreed.We could still have a few chats just to check in, but not really pertaining too much to important issues, that would be too much strain on the eyes were it on the wiki talk pages. We could post the best of the talks onto the wiki, thereby keeping the wiki clean, and making everyone happy.
(Oh and SJ, get some sleep!)
On 11/26/05, SJ 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/26/05, mysekurity mysekurity@gmail.com wrote:
Fair enough. What do you propose we do to stem this problem? A
discussion
on-wiki, perhaps? More involvement on Meta? A site notice? What do we do
to
make this more democratic?
Perhaps instead of another real-time meeting, we could work on a list of open questions on Meta, and on organizing existing information there (old reports, archived content from meta and the wikimania-wiki; related discussions that were held last year). That might feel less 'fast', without bias towards IRC users, while taking care of some important follow-up work and avoiding duplicated effort.
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