Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
The Wikineering Collaboration San Francisco, California & Cambridge, Massachusetts
Is a website for Wikineering up and running that one can peek at?
Well, if I may ask, contributors of content and/or technical knowledge? i.e, coding, designers, etc
Thanks
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
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It's in development, launching this week. You're welcome to join us to help.
Yes, we need contributors of technical knowledge and content. Coders, designers, editors.
Please contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org, let me know how you can help.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Is a website for Wikineering up and running that one can peek at?
Well, if I may ask, contributors of content and/or technical knowledge? i.e, coding, designers, etc
Thanks
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote: Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
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Is it going to be similar to Open Source Ecology? Will it be only for reviewing or will it provide tools for creation?
If so, what kind of tools do you think are needed? Something similar to Extension:WorkingWiki?
Micru
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Guy Ravine guyravine@gmail.com wrote:
It's in development, launching this week. You're welcome to join us to help.
Yes, we need contributors of technical knowledge and content. Coders, designers, editors.
Please contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org, let me know how you can help.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Is a website for Wikineering up and running that one can peek at?
Well, if I may ask, contributors of content and/or technical knowledge? i.e, coding, designers, etc
Thanks
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
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Hi Micru,
There's much to improve over open source ecology in the way of collective engineering. The tools we're looking to create enable better collaboration on brainstorming and spec'ing. Also, philosophically they diverge, as Wikineering is to create and improve fundamentally new products and services and improve those that have a mass market. This means that there will be significantly more engagement and usability to it.
Yes, it will provide tools for creation, not just reviewing. The extension workingwiki is a good place to start.
We're looking to over time improve the editing tools for collective engineering, such as include annotation layers on entries, overlayed discussions, nuanced permissions, quickly arrangeable repository for files, advanced reputation system, and others that will be added time. But we need to start with the basics and ask - what are the basics that will allow people to wikineer the hyperloop as a first project? If you'd like to help make this a reality, email me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org.
Guy
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:44 AM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
Is it going to be similar to Open Source Ecology? Will it be only for reviewing or will it provide tools for creation?
If so, what kind of tools do you think are needed? Something similar to Extension:WorkingWiki?
Micru
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Guy Ravine guyravine@gmail.com wrote: It's in development, launching this week. You're welcome to join us to help.
Yes, we need contributors of technical knowledge and content. Coders, designers, editors.
Please contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org, let me know how you can help.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Is a website for Wikineering up and running that one can peek at?
Well, if I may ask, contributors of content and/or technical knowledge? i.e, coding, designers, etc
Thanks
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote: Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
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Quoting David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com:
Is it going to be similar to Open Source Ecology? Will it be only for reviewing or will it provide tools for creation?
If so, what kind of tools do you think are needed? Something similar to Extension:WorkingWiki?
This is the first Wikimania-related email has caught my attention in (probably) years. I know Erik is - effectively - betting his career on the Visual Editor, and acting as de-facto PM on that.
Don't have the answer to the real old-school 64-million-dollar-question: Who is the WMF's lead systems analyst? Who tells you what the young enthusiasts do not want to hear? "This problem, more-effectively solved in The Real World." ,I don't want the job, Brion V comes close to that role as "Godfather of MediaWiki"; but, you seem to have no 'jack-of-all-trades' BOFH who shoots every attempt to repeat a well-known "failure path" for development.
I'm aware of others on Wikinews trying to articulate the potential the project has; aint beingcognised.
show-stoppers on the Visual Editor (VE), and - if that breaks our tools I will not keep quiet (as I'd like to do after this email). We took (read: I *begged* to get Vector on enWN first; we shook out a bunch of issues so they were not a problem on enWP.
We have unique use cases; use-cases that - with a functional VE - Wikipedia might ask about 3, 4 or 5-years down the line. Politics; Wikinewsies love that crap - unless it gets in our way. Happens too-often.
I'm now part of "tech support to the world's tier-one telecoms"; I want to keep the hell away from Wikipedia, I can do without the politics there; I've got a pile of media, and about 50-odd pages of notes to turn into a Wikinews article. From what, you might ask? Look out for photo and/or major video updates on the enWP pages of certain political players.
Erik, I really want to see the visual editor succeed; if I can help, and ask no-more than a footnote that "Brian is far-less-of-a-b'tard" than my enemies thing, it is all I ask. But, right now, I'm waiting on my invite to a 'certain hotel in Edinburgh' to obtain the first, comprehensive, "video self-introduction" but one of the icons of 20th-Century politics. Pages of notes to turn this into an enWN article? About 50-100. The trailer for Tony Benn's biog? Pending release under a libre license? Just a normal week's work for a Wikinewsie. Were you to take off your board/staff/whatever hat, approach what we've turned enWN into aince you helped get the ball rolling, and see where we're at? I think you'd have cause to be proud. Yeah, you can't take credit for much, but you gave us an opening that was needed.
Drop me a mail, or call me on my Genband number; it's long-past-due having WMF staff accept that (whilst I appreciated 'expressions of concern' when I ended up getting open-heart surgery), I am just writing this 'slightly ranty' email to say I would like asked for input on more stuff; I can't drop an issue hitting tens of thousands (which might-well include their access to WMF projects); But, the oda frailds are in-favour of me being part of the back-edn team fixing your issues.
I have 1hr audio to process, a provisional "promise" that the trailer for the in-the-works Tony Benn video will be available under a enWP-compatible license, and "good odds" on getting Tony Benn as the first major politician to have a video introduction of themselves on Wikipedia.
I love that the 2013 Wikimania has seen Jimmy admit that failing to put money into Wikinews was a - regrettable - mistake (and, I would put a shedload more nuance on that - we've had dozens of ideas put forward that "experience" says would have been an utter waste". We don't look at "value for money" on Wikinews; we look at "Value for effort"; I'm sitting with 1hr+ audio of Tony Benn's Fringe appearance, a who's-who of the people working on his film, and - let's not mince words - "The best Prime Minister the UK never had" as someone, albeit a frail octogenarian, who I'd dearly love to put Jimmy on-the-spot.
Wikinews is "the ideal" of news; our well-embedded critics need dealt with using "live ammo"; they've tried, multiple times, to have all Wikinews projects closed; projects where they know squat. Their goal is obvious, and I regret opting for derogatory shorthand - "The Signpost needs renamed to 'The Slimepost'". Its contributors tend to make Rupe Murdoch look acceptable, use their "publication as the 'most-greasy' source of hatchet-jobs' inside the Foundation and are sharp at "Death by Pi Chart".
For the 6-7 years I've funded wikinewsie.org, taught people "social engineering skikks, and vigourous;y debated what makes "quality journalism"; we've done some awesome work.
I'm going to be blunt, but curt, and close to my "notoriety". Topny1 needs banned. From wat? I don't know, but it likely incluedes a multitude of mailing lists. We have serouls problems with people who view the WMF as a "megalomaniac career ladder". It is not "The Elephant in the Room; but some of the people riding on that are."
He-who-is-not-to-be-mentioned [AKA Brianmc, Wikinews]
I believe its not a Wikimedia Foundation upcoming website, nor does it have any affiliations with the WMF.
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote:
It's in development, launching this week. You're welcome to join us to help.
Yes, we need contributors of technical knowledge and content. Coders, designers, editors.
Please contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org, let me know how you can help.
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nkansahrexford@gmail.com');>> wrote:
Is a website for Wikineering up and running that one can peek at?
Well, if I may ask, contributors of content and/or technical knowledge? i.e, coding, designers, etc
Thanks
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Guy Ravine wrote:
Hey Everyone!
I'm glad you all enjoyed the conference!
We're launching a new collaboration called Wikineering, wiki engineering, and need your help.
While so far, the wiki has been used to collectively organize knowledge repositories, Wikineering will put MediaWiki to use as a tool that allows the world to collaboratively create and improve specifications for new products and services. If the world could come together to wikineer meaningful new products and services that do not exist, it would change itself for the better. The vision is simple: Engineering built the 20th Century. Wikineering will build the 21st Century.
We are looking to launch Wikineering in the coming days based on MediaWiki and need your help. If you're good at MediaWiki development or customization, or at editing entries as a Wikipedian, please join us. There is a short term and long term roadmap to make this a reality and we could use your help.
The first project that will be collaboratively wikineered is the supersonic Hyperloop transportation system that was proposed yesterday by Tesla founder Elon Musk. The Hyperloop received exposure to millions of people yesterday and Musk invited everyone to contribute to the Hyperloop design. However, only thing that is missing to enable everyone to contribute to the design is a platform for collective engineering like Wikineering. So -- join us and we will build it!
To make wiki engineering practical requires new extensions and customization of MediaWiki. If you join us to contribute to the development of Wikineering we can together make it a reality and we will kick start a new movement that could literally change the world by allowing it to change itself. Wikineering is not a fly by night idea. A number of us -- inventors, engineers and academics at MIT -- have been thinking about the principles for successful collective engineering for a few years now. We now believe we know what it takes to make wiki practical for the collective engineering process and need your help to make it a reality!
Everyone are welcome to contribute. Contact me at guy _att_ wikineering _dot_ org to help.
Guy
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