Hi Lodewijk,
I agree that in theory a full year should be enough, but in practice we have some people who need a long time to get visa's sorted for travel to certain countries. Yes we should be able to get some sort of pre early bird process for such people, but in the absence of that it would help to bring the whole process forward.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 11:15, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Nah, lets not wind ourselves up unnecessarily. There is still plenty of time - as long as the winners are known around june/july. A full year should be enough to organize a Wikimania.
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Hi WSC,
I doubt that the moment that people start requesting visa for 2013 will be any sooner depending on the decision moment. Most of the people with visa problems also require financial support or will an invitation letter, the exact dates etc. Experience learned that the *real* organizing only takes off a few months after the previous Wikimania - hence my remark. Of course when people think they need much more time I guess we can move the process forward, but that is not what I have read and seen so far.
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 14:01, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi Lodewijk,
I agree that in theory a full year should be enough, but in practice we have some people who need a long time to get visa's sorted for travel to certain countries. Yes we should be able to get some sort of pre early bird process for such people, but in the absence of that it would help to bring the whole process forward.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 11:15, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Nah, lets not wind ourselves up unnecessarily. There is still plenty of time - as long as the winners are known around june/july. A full year should be enough to organize a Wikimania.
Lodewijk
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Hi Lodewijk,
Perhaps what we need then is to move certain things forward. An invitation letter and precise dates for I suspect a small number of people in countries which will have visa difficulties should not be too onerous to put into the first month of a 15 month process.
Neither I would hope would it be impossible to consider their grant applications at an early stage.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 13:04, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi WSC,
I doubt that the moment that people start requesting visa for 2013 will be any sooner depending on the decision moment. Most of the people with visa problems also require financial support or will an invitation letter, the exact dates etc. Experience learned that the *real* organizing only takes off a few months after the previous Wikimania - hence my remark. Of course when people think they need much more time I guess we can move the process forward, but that is not what I have read and seen so far.
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 14:01, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi Lodewijk,
I agree that in theory a full year should be enough, but in practice we have some people who need a long time to get visa's sorted for travel to certain countries. Yes we should be able to get some sort of pre early bird process for such people, but in the absence of that it would help to bring the whole process forward.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 11:15, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Nah, lets not wind ourselves up unnecessarily. There is still plenty of time - as long as the winners are known around june/july. A full year should be enough to organize a Wikimania.
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Sure, that should and possibly could be moved forward. But I doubt that they would take your letter very seriously if you have no location & definite dates yet, and you cant allocate grants before you fixed the budget. All things that cannot happen too long in advance :)
And so far, the longest application time I have heard is ~6-9 months, which is still easily within a 12 month process if you plan well :) But this is only for some people anyway.
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 14:27, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi Lodewijk,
Perhaps what we need then is to move certain things forward. An invitation letter and precise dates for I suspect a small number of people in countries which will have visa difficulties should not be too onerous to put into the first month of a 15 month process.
Neither I would hope would it be impossible to consider their grant applications at an early stage.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 13:04, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi WSC,
I doubt that the moment that people start requesting visa for 2013 will be any sooner depending on the decision moment. Most of the people with visa problems also require financial support or will an invitation letter, the exact dates etc. Experience learned that the *real* organizing only takes off a few months after the previous Wikimania - hence my remark. Of course when people think they need much more time I guess we can move the process forward, but that is not what I have read and seen so far.
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 14:01, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> escreveu:
Hi Lodewijk,
I agree that in theory a full year should be enough, but in practice we have some people who need a long time to get visa's sorted for travel to certain countries. Yes we should be able to get some sort of pre early bird process for such people, but in the absence of that it would help to bring the whole process forward.
WSC
On 15 December 2011 11:15, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Nah, lets not wind ourselves up unnecessarily. There is still plenty of time - as long as the winners are known around june/july. A full year should be enough to organize a Wikimania.
Lodewijk
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