Hi, folks.
Many of you are still using etherpad.wikimedia.org -- which is old and terribly buggy. Some of you have switched to etherpad.wmflabs.org -- which is new and works well, but which had repeatedly choked in the past couple of days under the stress from dozens of Wikipedians taking notes simultaneously on several sheets.
*The best server to use is http://epl.wikimedia.org* -- also running the new version, but deployed on a production-grade server that shouldn't have those frequent disconnections and load problems.
Cheers,
Asaf
On 10/08/2013 07:58, Asaf Bartov wrote:
Hi, folks.
Many of you are still using etherpad.wikimedia.org http://etherpad.wikimedia.org -- which is old and terribly buggy. Some of you have switched to etherpad.wmflabs.org http://etherpad.wmflabs.org -- which is new and works well, but which had repeatedly choked in the past couple of days under the stress from dozens of Wikipedians taking notes simultaneously on several sheets.
*The best server to use is http://epl.wikimedia.org* -- also running the new version, but deployed on a production-grade server that shouldn't have those frequent disconnections and load problems.
It would be easier if there aren't so many different versions at different addresses all slightly different.....
The improvements are appreciated though!
2013/8/10 Katie Chan ktc@ktchan.info
On 10/08/2013 07:58, Asaf Bartov wrote:
Hi, folks.
Many of you are still using etherpad.wikimedia.org -- which is old and terribly buggy. Some of you have switched to etherpad.wmflabs.org -- which is new and works well, but which had repeatedly choked in the past couple of days under the stress from dozens of Wikipedians taking notes simultaneously on several sheets.
*The best server to use is http://epl.wikimedia.org* -- also running the new version, but deployed on a production-grade server that shouldn't have those frequent disconnections and load problems.
It would be easier if there aren't so many different versions at different addresses all slightly different.....
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On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Katie Chan ktc@ktchan.info wrote:
It would be easier if there aren't so many different versions at different addresses all slightly different.....
Agreed but I think it's not so bad if you know the backstory. (and maybe I got some of this wrong, ops pls correct me if I did!)
Short version: all new pads should be made on https://epl.wikimedia.org for now. (maybe epl.wm.o will eventually redirect to etherpad.wm.o ? anyway, using the epl.wm.o domain should work always even if it redirects you to etherpad.wm.o )
backstory:
(we could have maybe already switched etherpad.wm.o to be epl and made old pads available at e.g. etherpad-old.wm.o in the interim but I don't think that's worth it at this stage of the migration.)
the labs version just exists because the prod version at the time was (sometimes) unreliable and there was no point in sight when that would be fixed. I guess an end of life for the labs version could be announced very soon. (or at least end of support)
the legacy (java/openoffice.org) version still exists because there was until recently still a lot of work to do to finish the migration to the epl version. (there has been a lot of recent migration work/progress)
-Jeremy
Disappointingly, epl.wikimedia.org is not _at all_ more reliable. I keep getting losing the connection, both at the venue and here in my hotel, where the wifi is otherwise excellent.
Any ideas?
A.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Katie Chan ktc@ktchan.info wrote:
It would be easier if there aren't so many different versions at
different
addresses all slightly different.....
Agreed but I think it's not so bad if you know the backstory. (and maybe I got some of this wrong, ops pls correct me if I did!)
Short version: all new pads should be made on https://epl.wikimedia.orgfor now. (maybe epl.wm.o will eventually redirect to etherpad.wm.o ? anyway, using the epl.wm.o domain should work always even if it redirects you to etherpad.wm.o )
backstory:
(we could have maybe already switched etherpad.wm.o to be epl and made old pads available at e.g. etherpad-old.wm.o in the interim but I don't think that's worth it at this stage of the migration.)
the labs version just exists because the prod version at the time was (sometimes) unreliable and there was no point in sight when that would be fixed. I guess an end of life for the labs version could be announced very soon. (or at least end of support)
the legacy (java/openoffice.org) version still exists because there was until recently still a lot of work to do to finish the migration to the epl version. (there has been a lot of recent migration work/progress)
-Jeremy
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Asaf Bartov, 10/08/2013 17:26:
Disappointingly, epl.wikimedia.org http://epl.wikimedia.org is not _at all_ more reliable. I keep getting losing the connection, both at the venue and here in my hotel, where the wifi is otherwise excellent.
Any ideas?
epl should not be used until it's officially ready; the wmflabs version is not production so it must not be relied upon. Just use etherpad.wikimedia.org which has less bugs and problems as of now. As early as this Sunday, a merge may happen. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45312
Nemo
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