Dear friends:
We are writting this email in behalf of Wikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personal concern and is not only caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finished twelve days ago, and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks,
Patricio Lorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
On 25/03/2008, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this email in behalf ofWikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personal concern and is notonly caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finished twelve days ago,and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, Patricio Lorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
As soon as there is news you will hear it (trust me I've been bugging people for ages now... and anyhow the decision is always late for whatever reason.)
I think Patricio is very right, and a "you'll hear from us" is not a reply that is worth the efforts imho. The local teams have to deal with relationships indeed, and I think that the very least the jury can do now is set a fine deadline. I really have to say that I am truely disappointed by the way this is going, and of this reply.
BR, Lodewijk
2008/3/25, Majorly axel9891@googlemail.com:
On 25/03/2008, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this email in behalf ofWikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personal concern and is notonly caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finished twelve days ago,and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, Patricio Lorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
As soon as there is news you will hear it (trust me I've been bugging people for ages now... and anyhow the decision is always late for whatever reason.)
-- Alex (Majorly)
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On 25/03/2008, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
I think Patricio is very right, and a "you'll hear from us" is not a reply that is worth the efforts imho. The local teams have to deal with relationships indeed, and I think that the very least the jury can do now is set a fine deadline. I really have to say that I am truely disappointed by the way this is going, and of this reply.
I know all this, but I get shouted at if I dare to ask. I am also disappointed at how long this is taking. I suggest next year that a date isn't set, or one that is actually going to be reached when it comes to the deadline is set instead.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com wrote:
I think Patricio is very right, and a "you'll hear from us" is not a reply that is worth the efforts imho. The local teams have to deal with relationships indeed, and I think that the very least the jury can do now is set a fine deadline. I really have to say that I am truely disappointed by the way this is going, and of this reply.
/me takes seat, struggles to remove his boot, gives up for the moment and feels like he's [[waiting for Godot]] :-(
You should annouce to WMF that your bid will be withdrawn if not accepted by a certain date. If you could get Toronto to agree to do this as a united front it would be even better.
That is what I would do in your place.
Birgitte SB
--- Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this emailin behalf of Wikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personalconcern and is not only caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finishedtwelve days ago, and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, PatricioLorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
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You should annouce to WMF that your bid will be withdrawn if not accepted by a certain date. If you could get Toronto to agree to do this as a united front it would be even better.
That is what I would do in your place.
Birgitte SB
--- Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this emailin behalf of Wikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personalconcern and is not only caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finishedtwelve days ago, and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, PatricioLorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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Patricio (and the rest of the bid team),
On behalf of the jury and moderators, I am very sorry it has taken so long. My apologies also for not sending out a note to the bid teams letting you know about the delay. As has been the case the last three years, the bids are *very* strong and the jury has had a lot to consider and discuss (as anyone who has followed all the various Wikimania discussions the last few years can imagine!)
We are working on a decision announcement now, and I hope to post it soon.
-- Phoebe
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this email in behalf ofWikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personal concern and is notonly caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finished twelve days ago,and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, Patricio Lorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
Even though Brisbane has been eliminated now, I too would like to state that I find the delay to be dispiriting. While I appreciate that the Jury are undoubtedly busy and that there are surely circumstances of which I am not aware, all four bid teams managed to meet the deadlines as requested, so it is a bit disappointing that the Jury/Foundation repeatedly were not able to meet their own.
I don't want to be the perennial complainer, and this is not directed at any particular person involved in the whole process, but perhaps better organisation and a clearer sense of direction is needed for the next Wikimania bid process that is undertaken?
Best Wishes, Craig Franklin
----- Original Message ----- From: "phoebe ayers" brassratgirl@gmail.com To: "Patricio Lorente" patricio.lorente@gmail.com Cc: wikimania@wikimedia.org.ar; "Delphine Ménard" dmenard@wikimedia.org; wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; "Lista de la Comision Directiva de Wikimedia Argentina" comdir@wikimedia.org.ar; wikimania-jury-l@lists.wikimedia.org; anthere@anthere.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: [personal] Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2009 - deadline
Patricio (and the rest of the bid team),
On behalf of the jury and moderators, I am very sorry it has taken so long. My apologies also for not sending out a note to the bid teams letting you know about the delay. As has been the case the last three years, the bids are *very* strong and the jury has had a lot to consider and discuss (as anyone who has followed all the various Wikimania discussions the last few years can imagine!)
We are working on a decision announcement now, and I hope to post it soon.
-- Phoebe
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends:
We are writting this email in behalf ofWikimedia Argentina, to tell you about our concern because of the lack of news about the jury decision and even about when this decision may be taken.
This is not just a personal concern and is notonly caused by an understandable anxiety: we are being requested from potential sponsors and media and we are delaying this meetings because we don't know what to tell them. The worst thing is that we can't tell them at least when are we going to know the decision. The Director of our proposed venue is pushing us to define if we are going to use it or not, because they need to set the 2009 agenda. And so on. We think the Toronto team may have the same problems.
The last deadline finished twelve days ago,and since then we had no news. We don't want to disturb nor to hurry up the jury discussion, but it would be of great help if the jury could establish a final date. If this is done, at least part of the uncertainty will disappear.
Thanks, Patricio Lorente Presidente Enrique Chaparro (Vicepresidente) Wikimedia Argentina
Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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