Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 126, Issue 6 - Wikimania-l

27 Oct 2016

Dear everybody,

Wikimedia Sverige is also interested in hosting Wikimania in 2019.

We cannot compete regarding the weather (even though August's weather is as
good as it gets here in the North), but in our APG application we have
briefly outline our plan to achieve a successful event through long term
capacity building.[1]

Best regards,

John

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/
2016-2017_round1/Wikimedia_Sverige/Proposal_form#3_Community

2016-10-17 23:26 GMT+02:00 &lt;wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;rg>:

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 I will be meeting with the WMF management next week to discuss strategy,
 budget, etc for future Wikimanias.   So after that I will be posting more
 information.   In the meantime, as you say, we don't want people to put
 energy into detailed proposals or looking at the past structure of bids.
 I am just trying to get expressions of interest at this time, with the hope
 of making the process of hosting/organizing a much less painful experience
 for prospective people.

 Thanks, Ellie

 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Lodewijk &lt;lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org&gt;
 wrote:

  Hey all,

 I'm not really sure if it would be the most effective if every city that
 has some level of interest, displays it by writing an email here. Elly,
 could you perhaps indicate what kind of information you would like from
 countries that show interest, to avoid the scenario that they start  putting
  together packages of information that are
actually of no help to you at
 this phase of consideration?

 Best,
 Lodewijk

 ps: in your email, it seems part of the last paragraph was removed by
 accident while editing, maybe you could check whether critical  information
  was supposed to be put there?

 2016-10-17 12:23 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra &lt;gnangarra(a)gmail.com&gt;om>:

> Visa arent an issue everyone can get them online, except for those  people
 > from North Korea and currently those
travelling under some UN passports
>  due to a technical issue.
>
> We have public transport system that works its nothing flash though a
> definate must do experience for the adventurist people.  Perth has  lovely
 > weather despite it being winter here in
July/August you might get to
> experience some rain event then its bound to interrupted by sunshine  with
 > temperatures between 14-20 degrees Celsius
though the warmer days are  when
 > it'll be raining.  Withe sunshine will be
clear skys at night so there  will
 > ample opportnity to view the southern night
skys, short trip out side  the
 > city lights will let see the milkyway in all
its majesty.
>
> Western Australia does have its and few other places share of sharks,
> spirders, snakes(not so many in winter), blue ringed octopus, box
> jellyfish(in winter its too cold for them as well), crocodiles but they
> arent normally found close to Perth. Then there are the drop bears which
> can be a bit sneaky during the cold months as they look for warm places  to
 > hide, there also the Bulyits a distant
relative of the bunyip known for
> luring children away from the swimming holes and camp fires
>
> Kangaroos are every where even on the backs of our coins, we'll be able
> to find a few for those want to see them, and Perth is also home to the
> happiest animal on the planet the Quokka.
>
> History wise if you look at the written books we are only a couple of
> hundred years old, but in reality WA is home to one of the oldest  continual
 > cultures in the world
>
> Perth will be more than a destination, it'll be journey of adventure,
>  into the past of a truly ancient land.
>
> so ends this tale of tourism and adventure stay tune for next weeks
> episode on fresh foods, wines and ales that will delight your senses  even
 > more
>
>
> On 17 October 2016 at 17:27, cs &lt;cs(a)edubkk.org&gt; wrote:
>
>> There are very few  countries that need a visa for visiting Thailand  for
 >> up to 15 days and the nationals of most
Western countries can stay for  30.
 >> This is a simple stamp in the passport on
arrival although if you just  got
 >> off a A380 it might take you 10 minutes
queuing at the immigration  desks.
 >> Members of ASEAN countries have even
greater benefits (a bit like EU
>> borders - oops! Should I have said that?)
>>
>> Ultra modern mass rapid transport (overhead and subway trains) make
>> transfer from the airport to the centre of downtown a doddle and 
extremely
 >> uncomplicated at not more than 20 minutes
and just over a dollar or  two for
 >> a ride; a taxi costs only 10 dollars so 4
sharing is even cheaper than  the
 >> railway or the bus.
>> Signage everywhere in Thailand is in English, even in the tiniest rural
>> villages. Plenty of facilities everywhere for people of reduced  mobility
 >> (ramps everywhere for wheelchairs,
special toilets, etc.). Most people
>> under 30 can speak enough English to point you in the wrong direction.
>>
>> Despite the silly reports in the Lonely Planet, BKK is
>> an extraordinarily safe city, no mugging, and hardly any pickpocketing.
>> Most petty crime is done by the foreign tourists themselves.
>>
>> Transport  in town by proper air conditioned taxis or the touristy
>> tuk-tuks (motorcycle rickshaws for the more adventurous) costs only 2  - 4
 >> dollars for a ride that in a black cab in
London would cost over 20  quid.
 >>
>> Road traffic in the city is dense, but not as bad as central Berlin,
>> London, Manhattan, Paris, or Marseille. In fact I don’t mind driving 
around
 >> it at all. Helps to know where you are
going though (but I do, and I  know
 >> the shortcuts through the back alleys).
>>
>> Unlike DC, Hong Kong, or Esino, a compact venue with a very short
>> walking distance to/from accommodation and reasonable eating places is
>> absolutely no problem. Everything is flat and there are no hills
>> (no collapsing in the street from asthma attacks like on the steep  slopes
 >> in the rare air of Esino Lario) Something
like the government
>> Chulalongkorn University (Thailand’s Oxbridge) campus is right  in the
>> middle of town and there are budget hotels up every alley.
>>
>> For those who feel they must  exploit the conference  for some sight
>> seeing, BKK is a hugely fascinating city. Even has what I believe is  the
 >> world’s largest shopping mall (Panthip
Plaza) dedicated entirely to  IT.
 >> Fast river and canal boat-busses also
provide a dense transportation
>> network in and around the city and suburbs (only 20 mins from the
>> backpacker ghetto (rooms from 4 quid a night) in Banglamphu district to
>>  Siam Square, the downtown epicentre.
>>
>> Tourism speech over.
>>
>> Kudpung
>>
>> On 17Oct, 2016, at 15:15, WereSpielChequers < 
werespielchequers(a)gmail.com&gt;
 >> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> That sounds like a really good option for 2018 or later, especially  when
 >> you consider how open Thailand is for
visitors.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Thailand
>>
>> Also it would be the first Wikimania in the far East for five years.
>>
>> If Bangkok traffic is as bad as its reputation,  would it be possible  to
 >> get a compact venue with food
accommodation and conference all in  walking
 >> distance?
>>
>> WSC
>>
>> On 17 October 2016 at 07:33, cs &lt;cs(a)edubkk.org&gt; wrote:
>>
>>> I am seriously interested in organising a Wikimania in Bangkok.
>>> The Thai Wiki does not have a functional chapter, but there is a user
>>> group chaired by a professor at Thailand’s major Medical College, and 
we
 >>> have collaborated on various
projects.
>>> With our combined knowledge we could get a team together fofr 2018 0r
>>> 2019 probably 2019 would be best. .
>>> I have experience in event management. Taweetham has lived and
>>> studiedfor his PhD in Australia and has attended several Wikimanias.  I
have
 >>> lived in Thailand for nearly 20 years
and was a professor at a  government
 >>> university in Bangkok for several
years.
>>>
>>> Bangkok has an ideal geo location, it’s a very modern city with
>>> excellent transport and communications infrastructures.  (two large
>>> interation airports only 20 mins from the city centre; highly 
developed
 >>> urban rapid mass transport systems;
first class Internet).
>>>
>>> Food, accommodation, and other facilities for visitors cost roughly 
one
 >>> sixth of those in Western (USA,
Canada, Australia, Europe,) or  Westernised
 >>> economies (HK, Singapore, etc).
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> (Kudpung)
>>>
>>> On 17Oct, 2016, at 07:24, Ellie Young &lt;eyoung(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a follow-up to a posting to this list by the Wikimania
>>> Committee in July soliciting proposals for people who might be 
interested
 >>> in hosting a future Wikimania
(especially 2018 and 2019), as follows:
>>>
>>> "
>>> We are now looking for proposals of teams and locations. This is not a
>>>  
>>> bidding process; we are keen for this to be a light-weight, simple
>>> request for suggestions. You don’t need to have a venue locked down,
>>> contracts drafted or sponsors lined up. You can have a quick look at 
the
 >>> “judging criteria” which were used
for 2016,[2] but the key part is
>>> commitment. In deciding where to hold conferences, we have to take 
into
 >>> account additional factors about
potential sites such as cost,
>>>  
>>> accessibility, and security. 
>>> "
>>>
>>> I will be following up with various people who have expressed interest
>>> in the coming week.  If anyone  else is interested in discussing the
>>> possibilities (the team/prospective host need not be tied to a 
particular
 >>> venue), please get in touch with me
directly by October 30, 2016.  We
   > will be working with the WM
> F 
> in the coming months in finalizing a venue/team for 2018, and we also
> want to get an early start at identifying potentials for the following
> year.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Ellie Young
>
> WMF Events Manager
>
> eyoung(a)wikimedia.org
>
> 
>
> [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_judging_criteria
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