Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale ginevra.esse@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimania-l" wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; chapters@wikimedia.ch Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale ginevra.esse@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimania-l" wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; < chapters@wikimedia.ch> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 To: reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale ginevra.esse@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimania-l" wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; < chapters@wikimedia.ch> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per countries.
My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that information on the scholarship page :
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which refers, in terms of goals to * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_go...
If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 73% left.
Florence
PS: transparency... right ?
Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com a écrit :
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge.
Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com mailto:reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale <ginevra.esse@gmail.com mailto:ginevra.esse@gmail.com> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; <chapters@wikimedia.ch mailto:chapters@wikimedia.ch> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per countries.
My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that information on the scholarship page :
refers, in terms of goals to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_go...
If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 73% left.
Florence
PS: transparency... right ?
Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com a écrit :
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge.
Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com mailto:reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale <ginevra.esse@gmail.com mailto:ginevra.esse@gmail.com> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; <chapters@wikimedia.ch mailto:chapters@wikimedia.ch> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org mailto: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Thanks for pointing out that the reporting about Wikimania tends to be... full of holes :)
Digging, I found this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
Which is... well... incomplete.
And the category https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_scholarships is obviously... not complete either.
So, rephrasing....
I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the scholarships in 2016.
And I would find interesting to see the 2015 report completed as well :)
Flo
Le 11/03/16 16:31, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@gmail.com mailto:fdevouard@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per countries. My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that information on the scholarship page : * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which refers, in terms of goals to * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_goals_for_2015 If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 73% left. Florence PS: transparency... right ? Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com a écrit : Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved. I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians. Warmest regards, Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: * Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *<reachout2isaac@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016 The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven. Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected. Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship... To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not. If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia. We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally. Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle. Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment. I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra, No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it. Warmest regards, Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com <mailto:reachout2isaac@gmail.com> User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. 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I think what we're looking for is probably not online yet.
I've personally gone following these values and trying to get a tally for them. It was a dead end. I thought maybe my search-fu skills weren't good so didn't bother.
That 75% nicely phrased sentence probably has been in every year's criteria outline, BUT, I doubt it's ever been met.
The global south that gets more percentage on paper, but smaller percentage in reality, kinda awesome!
Perhaps, there's not been enough applicants to exhaust such a percentage. On the other hand, many Africans probably did or do apply, but duh, it's hard to know the applied:accepted ratio in union with the holy grail 75%.
I tried getting deeper into the actual figures some 3 or 4 years or so ago, and I ended up stopping.
And has there ever been any official explanation relating to such values? As in, if the 75% is not met, is there any document explaining what happened?
I've gone down this witch-hunt road before and I came back with nothing but sore eyes and weakened muscles. It's a long stretch.
It's Wikimania, isn't it? 😕😕 On 11 Mar 2016 4:07 pm, "Florence Devouard" fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for pointing out that the reporting about Wikimania tends to be... full of holes :)
Digging, I found this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
Which is... well... incomplete.
And the category https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_scholarships is obviously... not complete either.
So, rephrasing....
I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the scholarships in 2016.
And I would find interesting to see the 2015 report completed as well :)
Flo
Le 11/03/16 16:31, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@gmail.com mailto:fdevouard@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per countries. My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that information on the scholarship page : * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which refers, in terms of goals to *https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_go...
If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the 73% left. Florence PS: transparency... right ? Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com a écrit : Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lackof empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians. Warmest regards, Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com> *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *<reachout2isaac@gmail.com>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016 The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven. Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year.NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on theturn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not. If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia. We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally. Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there'refewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment. I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria fromnow until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge.
Hi Ginevra, No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia UserGroup Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
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My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
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PS The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
Regards Frances
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My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Frances Di Lauro < frances.dilauro@sydney.edu.au> wrote:
PS The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
That is incorrect. The definition used so far by the Wikimedia Foundation, and specifically in the context of the scholarships, is listed here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_regional_classification
(I will soon be publishing a different -- and I think more appropriate to the Wikimedian context -- distinction, but for now, the above is the definition used by WMF.)
A.
Antarctica is in the Global South? It's probably the wealthiest continent per capita, especially if you count krill.
Thanks, Pharos
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Frances Di Lauro < frances.dilauro@sydney.edu.au> wrote:
PS The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
That is incorrect. The definition used so far by the Wikimedia Foundation, and specifically in the context of the scholarships, is listed here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_regional_classification
(I will soon be publishing a different -- and I think more appropriate to the Wikimedian context -- distinction, but for now, the above is the definition used by WMF.)
A.
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I'm not sure this is correct, Frances Di Lauro. See: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_South
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PS The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
Regards Frances
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My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Yes, thank you, I see it now. I thought it was geographical but it's about development.
On 12/03/2016 8:01 am, "reachout2isaac@gmail.com" reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure this is correct, Frances Di Lauro. See: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_South
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PS The global south also includes Australia (so big and yet so seemingly insignificant), New Zealand, Melanesia, Micronesia, Polynesia Š
Regards Frances
On 12/03/2016 7:43 am, "Wikimania-l on behalf of reachout2isaac@gmail.com" <wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of reachout2isaac@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
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Isaac
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Hi Isaac,
I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn there.
My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more information.
Lodewijk
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
Best,
Isaac
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*From: * Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org *Sender: * effeietsanders@gmail.com *Date: *Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:08:01 +0100 *To: *reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships
Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping reducing the guesswork, I think.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Isaac,
I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn there.
My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more information.
Lodewijk
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Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
Best,
Isaac
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, <reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com');> wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Call me cynical
It doesnt matter what process is published now because that process will be adjusted to reflect what ever happened, thats neither fair nor transparent. Just the same as Montreal was chosen first and then we were told the process was broken and needed to be changed. This appalling process bypass occurred in discussions in Mexico City, following outrage at that a consultation appeared with a carefully chosen group, with a carefully crafted questionnaire to ensure the outcome equals what was decided earlier.
The process that started in Mexico City has created a situation where scholarships not being awarded to communities is actually a concern as being represented at Wikimania is now a critical part of being involved in future decisions affecting the community.
On 14 March 2016 at 07:17, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping reducing the guesswork, I think.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Isaac,
I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn there.
My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more information.
Lodewijk
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
Best,
Isaac
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Apologies for the delay in getting this info up (it’s been busy here with getting the awards made, registration system up, etc.) Here is some information about the WMF Scholarship program (you can contact chapters directly who are giving scholarships out e.g., WMIT, WMIL, WMDE):
Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process, 124 total Scholarships were awarded (96 full and 24 partial).
Geographic regions are not the emphasis of the program. (We cannot provide a breakdown by country since it would essentially be releasing personally identifying information about the scholarship recipients, which they haven’t agreed to.)
The following page has information on 2015 and preliminary 2016 outcomes (and we are updating this page as we go):
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
If people would like to suggest changes to the program, we suggest they leave comments on the Talk page of the above wiki, or email the Scholarship Committee directly at wikimania-scholarships@wikimedia.org
Ellie Young, WMF Events Manager
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping reducing the guesswork, I think.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Isaac,
I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn there.
My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more information.
Lodewijk
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
Best,
Isaac
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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2016-03-16 2:18 GMT+04:00 Ellie Young eyoung@wikimedia.org:
Apologies for the delay in getting this info up (it’s been busy here with getting the awards made, registration system up, etc.) Here is some information about the WMF Scholarship program (you can contact chapters directly who are giving scholarships out e.g., WMIT, WMIL, WMDE):
Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process, 124 total Scholarships were awarded (96 full and 24 partial).
Geographic regions are not the emphasis of the program. (We cannot provide a breakdown by country since it would essentially be releasing personally identifying information about the scholarship recipients, which they haven’t agreed to.)
The following page has information on 2015 and preliminary 2016 outcomes (and we are updating this page as we go):
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes
If people would like to suggest changes to the program, we suggest they leave comments on the Talk page of the above wiki, or email the Scholarship Committee directly at wikimania-scholarships@wikimedia.org
Ellie Young, WMF Events Manager
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com
wrote:
I think Ellie mentions more information on this whole selection process and whatnot will be put on the wikis soon.
I'm sure they'll provide more insight into this whole discussion, helping reducing the guesswork, I think.
On Sunday, March 13, 2016, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Isaac,
I mentioned the chapter scholarships, because they are distributed /on top of/ those distributed by the scholarships of the WMF. This is one of the reasons why the global north gets a lower percentage.
I don't know if there /are/ formulae for distribution on a lower level than global north/global south. Maybe the country is less important than what the applicants bring to the conference, and what they expect to learn there.
My point is, this is all guesswork - until we have actual data and more information.
Lodewijk
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:05 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lodewijk,
You might be right but I don't see where it was published that scholarships are actually distributed through chapters. Even if that's the case, did Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, and the Middle East have multiple chapters? Why did Wikimedia ZA got one full and one partial scholarships? In what ratio were the scholarship shared? What is the distribution formulae? Sincerely, the sharing formulae remain a mystery to me.
Best,
Isaac
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Hi Isaac, running such statistics is always a bit tricky. You make lots of assumptions. One being that the number of serious applications is distributed in a certain way. As I understand it, the quality of the application also plays a role, which can definitely impact distribution between countries. Fact is, that there is right now simply not enough information to draw conclusions.
Also please note that many many scholarships are actually distributed through chapters - which gives even an odder distribution across countries, letting applicants in some countries benefit over the fact that there is an active office in their country that can run a budget of sufficient size. Some chapters try to compensate for that by also allowing applicants from a selection of other countries (like Poland does). So for a real analysis, one should include all these too.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:43 PM, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships. However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Ellie Young, 15/03/2016 23:18:
Of the 401 applications that made it into Phase 2 of the review process,
[...] (We cannot provide a breakdown by country [...])
We can however provide a breakdown of *applications* (phase 2) by region:
Africa 37 Arab States 30 Asia & Pacific 156 CIS 31 Europe 153 North America 33 South/Latin America 65
Nemo
Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes.
On 11 March 2016 at 23:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
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The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Your point is well noted.
Quoting Asaf's message ( found at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/2016-March/000614.... ):
"I also invite you to think about what else might be done to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa, beyond awarding a few more scholarships to Africans. I remind you that the Wikimedia Foundation is eager to support mission-aligned work, including experimentation, through the various grants programs[1], and that there is a wealth of written materials about program design and best practices[2][3][4], for African volunteers motivated to do more programmatic work in Africa.
If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start [2] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/ [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Program_Toolkits " Perhaps we can come together to brainstorm of ways to improve the system?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes.
On 11 March 2016 at 23:01, <reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com');> wrote:
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
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The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com'); User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale <ginevra.esse@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ginevra.esse@gmail.com');> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org');>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org');>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)< wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');>; < chapters@wikimedia.ch javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chapters@wikimedia.ch');> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Asaf directed that comment to Olaniyan but this is not about Olaniyan not receiving Wikimanian scholarship but the under-representation of established Wikimedia communities in Africa. Olaniyan is just one out of hundreds of contributors to Wikimedia projects from Africa. I remind you that no one is compromising the need to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa.
Best,
Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:02:16 To: Gnangarragnangarra@gmail.com Cc: reachout2isaac@gmail.comreachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Your point is well noted.
Quoting Asaf's message ( found at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/2016-March/000614.... ):
"I also invite you to think about what else might be done to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa, beyond awarding a few more scholarships to Africans. I remind you that the Wikimedia Foundation is eager to support mission-aligned work, including experimentation, through the various grants programs[1], and that there is a wealth of written materials about program design and best practices[2][3][4], for African volunteers motivated to do more programmatic work in Africa.
If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start [2] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/ [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Program_Toolkits " Perhaps we can come together to brainstorm of ways to improve the system?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes.
On 11 March 2016 at 23:01, <reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com');> wrote:
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nkansahrexford@gmail.com');> *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *<reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com');>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)<wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','reachout2isaac@gmail.com'); User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale <ginevra.esse@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ginevra.esse@gmail.com');> Sender: "Wikimania-l" <wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org');>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org');>; Wikimania general list (open subscription)< wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');>; < chapters@wikimedia.ch javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chapters@wikimedia.ch');> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org');> Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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2016-03-12 3:13 GMT+04:00 reachout2isaac@gmail.com:
Asaf directed that comment to Olaniyan but this is not about Olaniyan not receiving Wikimanian scholarship but the under-representation of established Wikimedia communities in Africa. Olaniyan is just one out of hundreds of contributors to Wikimedia projects from Africa. I remind you that no one is compromising the need to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa.
Best,
Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:02:16 +0000 *To: *Gnangarragnangarra@gmail.com *Cc: *reachout2isaac@gmail.comreachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Your point is well noted.
Quoting Asaf's message ( found at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/2016-March/000614.... ):
"I also invite you to think about what else might be done to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa, beyond awarding a few more scholarships to Africans. I remind you that the Wikimedia Foundation is eager to support mission-aligned work, including experimentation, through the various grants programs[1], and that there is a wealth of written materials about program design and best practices[2][3][4], for African volunteers motivated to do more programmatic work in Africa.
If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships.
A.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start [2] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/ [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Program_Toolkits " Perhaps we can come together to brainstorm of ways to improve the system?
On Friday, March 11, 2016, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Olatunde raises a significant issue in that call for communities to participate in the community village is demoralising if communities dont have the opportunity to attend the event which is suppose to be bringing everyone together. We have the underlying principle of sharing the sum of all knowledge, if we dont do it internally then we cant do it successfully externally.
As for the response the process for Wikimania has been changed, in Mexico last year a decision was taken with many communities unaware and excluded from the discussion because they didnt have anyone there. With Wikmania being every 2 years its becomes more significant that all communities have representatives attend every wikimania otherwise it ends up isolating communities for 4 years from the whole of the movement. The scholarship process is also broken and its needs to be discussed it needs to be reconsidered to allow for the changes.
On 11 March 2016 at 23:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a non-sequitur comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.
I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the decency to be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
*From: * Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:30:07 +0000 *To: *reachout2isaac@gmail.com; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject: *Re: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to heaven.
Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships. Plus, hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year. NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.
Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...
To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship should they edit Wikipedia or not.
If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's in your hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose behind contributing to Wikipedia.
We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship. Rather, it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and openness of knowledge globally.
Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country without a representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.
Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and openly. I find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.
I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge. Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale ginevra.esse@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimania-l" wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; < chapters@wikimedia.ch> Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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Hi Ginevra,
No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac, Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba. Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria. Phone: +2348166620737 Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com User page: Wikicology Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.
-----Original Message----- From: Ginevra Sanvitale ginevra.esse@gmail.com Sender: "Wikimania-l" wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:05:40 To: Wikimedia Mailing Listwikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Wikimania general list (open subscription)wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org; chapters@wikimedia.ch Reply-To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimania-l] Community Village and Meetups at Wikimania 2016
Hi people, it's finally time to send your applications for the Community Village at Wikimania 2016:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village
And you can also start planning your meetups:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups
Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and trainings closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!
Have a nice weekend,
Ginevra Wikimania Programme Committee
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