Without distracting too much from the original invitation extended to
Wikimedians to talk about their personal stories (these have always turned
out to be pretty cool!)...
Agree with Kudpung that phabricator is probably the wrong place to post
anything that has to do with social issues on the site - which is largely
what undisclosed paid editing is. I do, however, disagree with him about
the number of individuals involved. Based on my own observations,
including a few big sockpuppetry investigations - the number of people who
are doing the really problematic undisclosed paid editing (including the
coercive behaviours) is probably very small - less than 100, and possibly
even less than 50. They just run an army of socks that are often very, very
difficult to link together without an enormous investment of time, because
they do take steps to keep accounts separate. We have found several sock
rings with several hundred sock accounts, bur probably only 2-4 people
actively editing.
Risker/Anne
On 2 August 2017 at 14:12, cs <cs(a)edubkk.org> wrote:
We are not statisticians - we leave that to the people
who are paid to
make stats ;)
However, a look at our en.Wiki SPI and COIN departments will make you fall
off your chair too - there are ‘editors’ even operating protection rackets
(proven).
I’m not sure Phab is the place to report it - despite some high level
conferences with the WMF we have been unable to convince of the need for
software solutions to help combat it.
It should be the topic of a talk at Wikimania but my propsed presentation
has been blocked two years running.
Kudp*U*ng
On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:56, Leila Zia <leila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:45 AM, cs <cs(a)edubkk.org> wrote:
if you knew the extent of paid editing, blackmail, and extortion we are
discovering and trying to combat you’d fall off your chair or drop your
camera.
If you have statistics (ideally across languages) and you can help us
understand this problem better, please provide them or a pointer to
them at
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158476
Best,
Leila
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Senior Research Scientist
Wikimedia Foundation
Kudpung
On 3Aug, 2017, at 00:33, Victor Grigas <vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hello Wikimedians!
My name is Victor Grigas, I’m a storyteller and video producer at the
Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit that supports Wikipedia. Many of you
may already know me or my work. I'll be in Montreal at Wikimania from
Thursday August 10th through Sunday August 13th and wanted to ask that if
you know someone or are someone who has an inspiring story to share about
how you use Wikimedia projects, then we'd like to hear it!
If you are interested, please answer a few questions on this private
Google form or share it with someone you know who will be attending
Wikimania:
https://goo.gl/forms/h6a9TWFyFMs4qgua2
(All answers are confidential and we will not publish your story without
first getting your written permission.)
We publish profiles of Wikimedians here regularly:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/c/communications/profiles/
Then, in Montreal I can take your portrait photo for free to publish on
Wikimedia Commons. I’ll be there from Thursday August 10th through Sunday
August 13th. I’ll only need a few minutes of your time to take your photo
and we can co-ordinate by email. Once I'm there, I'll have a better idea of
where I'll be for the best lighting setup.
If you have any questions, feel free to email Victor Grigas -
vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org
Thank you!
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Victor Grigas
Video Production Manager
and Storyteller
Wikimedia Foundation
vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org
https://donate.wikimedia.org/
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