Fæ, 10/10/2014 16:44:
> [...] a WMF employee make community decisions for us (such as
> appointing the Jury [...]
I've not inspected the facts in detail, but as far as I could understand
this is NOT what happened, so it's a bit annoying to hear you repeat it
continuously. I added a summary to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_jury some days ago and I
encourage everyone to edit it (with references, where controversial).
I'm sure it will be easier to discuss productively once we've agreed
upon the essential facts.
Nemo
Psy might be giving a keynote speech at CHI 2015....
http://chi2015seoul.wordpress.com/
"One of the invitations has been sent to Psy, who made 2 billion view
record on his music video, Gangnam Style on YouTube. He has made many
speeches around the world including Harvard and Oxford University."
Will that please the crowd?
Gordo
Based on a prompt from Itzik, I checked the archives of wikimania-l
(which I was not subscribed to). There is a message from Stuart Prior
there with a very brief summary of background of jury members which I
was unaware of and it may have been intended as a response to my
question. Refer to
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2014-October/006418.html>.
For those that do subscribe to wikimania-l, please keep in mind that
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Thanks,
Fae
On 10 October 2014 11:48, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question "how the
> current jury was elected and by who", is that the Wikimania jury is
> not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and
> presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment
> by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or
> volunteer-centric.
>
> We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been
> employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this
> question.
>
> It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied
> as referring to jury members as "second class citizens". Nobody apart
> from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement.
>
> Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept
> secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the
> balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how
> several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order
> to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance
> questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing
> demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled
> for future Wikimania events.
>
> It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see
> commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo.
>
> Fae
I do agree that it should be great to have a transparent way to elect the
jury, but people, let's at least take the word or the people who commented
here. The ones who come here and said "I do work for a wikimedia org, but
I'm in the jury as a volunteer". Why do not believe in then? Most of then
(the ones I know about) are long standing volunteers so it IS possible that
was because of that they were chosen. If the criteria were open would be
better and we wouldnt have that questions, yes. But let's try to keep civil
with the people who DID volunteer to be members of the jury.
_____
*Béria L. de Rodríguez*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a
construir esse sonho.*
2014-10-10 7:48 GMT-03:00 Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>:
> The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question "how the
> current jury was elected and by who", is that the Wikimania jury is
> not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and
> presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment
> by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or
> volunteer-centric.
>
> We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been
> employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this
> question.
>
> It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied
> as referring to jury members as "second class citizens". Nobody apart
> from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement.
>
> Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept
> secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the
> balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how
> several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order
> to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance
> questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing
> demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled
> for future Wikimania events.
>
> It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see
> commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo.
>
> Fae
>
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> It also makes me wonder how hard whoever "elected" the jury worked to find
> interested unpaid volunteers as opposed to employees who are part of the
> normal professional networks.
>
I might be wrong, but I didnt saw a mail with a call for volunteers to
compose the jury like they do every year. (I do might had missed though so
is better if Manuel or Ellie answers.)
_____
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2014-09-29 11:13 GMT-03:00 Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>:
> On 29 September 2014 14:45, Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I also would like to know the answer to Itzik question:
> >
> > " Can you elaborate more on how the current jury was elected and by who?"
> >> > Richard Symonds
> >> > Stuart Prior
> >> > Claudia Garad
> >> > Esteban Zarate
> >> > Daniel Bryant
> >> > Finne Boonen
> >> > Ellie Young
>
> Could someone point to a profile of the jury members? It is incredibly
> hard to see who has been an employee of the WMF or Chapters unless you
> happen to know people personally. However, I believe I am correct in
> saying that only the minority of the jury has never been a paid
> employee, which may not be the best thing for a conference aimed at
> unpaid volunteers.
>
> It also makes me wonder how hard whoever "elected" the jury worked to
> find interested unpaid volunteers as opposed to employees who are part
> of the normal professional networks.
>
> Fae
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Hi there,
I want to follow Stuart's example and briefly introduce myself as a
member of this year's jury:
My name is Claudia Garád, I am the Executive Director of Wikimedia
Austria (WMAT) and attended the Wikimanias in Hong Kong and London in
this context. However, I will volunteer for this commitee in my personal
capacity (not WMAT representative) and free time.
Before I started working for the movement, I was Head of Marketing and
Communications of a major science institute in Germany. Event- and
project-management was a substantial part of my tasks and team and we
organized national and international conferences on a regular basis.
I applied for the jury because I think Wikimania is a great and and
important event for our movement - but I am also aware of the scepticism
of parts of the broader movement in general and our Austrian community
in particular regarding the development and future of Wikimania. By
offering the experience and expertise I gathered inside and outside of
the movement, I hope I can contribute my share to a Wikimania 2016 that
will be beneficial for all our various stakeholders.
Best
Claudia
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> It looks like at least two are London organisers, and two are Mexico organisers (correct me if I’m wrong on that one). One is (of course) Ellie, Daniel is an Australian Wikipedian of more than eight years, and a cursory Google reveals Finne Boonen is a Dutch attendee of three previous Wikimanias and open-source advocate.
>
> It all comes down to who applies and what the Committee are looking for in a jury.
>
> Joe
>
> On 29 September 2014 at 11:21:51 am, Muzammil Wikipedian (muzammil.wikipedian(a)asia.com) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Like Itzik I too would like to know how the jury was selected. Also, it will be great if someone could shed light on the profiles of the members.
>
> Regards,
>
> Muzammil (User:Hindustanilanguage)
>
>
>
> At 29 Sep 2014 08:17:50 +0000 (UTC) from Itzik - Wikimedia Israel <itzik(a)wikimedia.org.il>:
>
> Hey Manuel,
> Can you elaborate more on how the current jury was elected and by who?
> Correct me, but beside Richard Sydmonds - all the members of this year jury are new? there is not continuity in the jury?
> Itzik
>
> Regards,
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> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote:
> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> Wikimania is the global, annual conference of the Wikimedia movement,
> organised by the Wikimedia community. Organizing team and location are
> chosen by a jury in a public bidding process.
>
> Due to the growing requirements and complexity for this growing
> conference the Wikimania Committee decided to revise the bidding
> timeline to give more time to prepare the conference.
>
> Here it is:
> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bid_selection_timeline
>
> == Jury ==
> The Wikimania Committee is pleased to announce the jury for Wikimania 2016:
>
> Richard Symonds
> Stuart Prior
> Claudia Garad
> Esteban Zarate
> Daniel Bryant
> Finne Boonen
> Ellie Young
>
> == Accepting Bids ==
> We invite anyone in our community to submit a proposal for Wikimania
> 2016 on Meta Wiki:
> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
>
> Please consult the timeline and Judging Criteria that are posted at:
> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
>
> The deadline for bids is November 15, 23:59 UTC. You should setup a
> bidding page and contact Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator before
> the deadline. She will help you prepare your bid. All bids which have
> been confirmed until November 15 will be considered by the jury, others
> will be dismissed.
>
> Subsequently there will be a two week period where the community can
> comment and offer feedback on the proposal.
>
> In December your team must be available for conference calls with the
> jury, after deliberations the host for Wikimania 2016 will be announced
> by the end of 2014.
>
> On behalf of the Wikimania Committee with regards,
>
>
> Manuel
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Dear all,
soon we will starting the bidding process for Wikimania 2016.
Soon the Wikimania Committee will be kicking off the selection process
for deciding who should host Wikimania 2016.
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016
Request for Proposals (RfP) is being published soon and we want to
invite volunteers to serve on the selection jury. The jury will evaluate
bids and make a recommendation to this committee and the WMF based on
published criteria, reviewing the bids from November onwards until the
final selection is made in December 2014.
This is roughly 30-40 hours' work, and is key to us making Wikimania a
strong, healthy community conference that we all can enjoy. The
Wikimania Committee will select a jury that is a balanced representation
of the community, from a diverse range of backgrounds, sexes, languages,
cultures and regions of the world.
What we are looking for:
* seven members
* geographical diversity
* experience with events of this kind - either outside or inside the
movement, as organiser or long-time Wikimaniac
* members are required to read the Wikimania proposals on Meta Wiki
* members are required to participate in six conference calls to discuss
with each Wikimania proposal team and with the jury, approximate
duration two hours, during the review phase (approx. one to two weeks
around December)
If you would like to serve on the jury, please e-mail Ellie Young
(off-list) eyoung @ wikimedia.org August 24. We will announce the jury
in two weeks' time.
On behalf of the Wikimania Committee with regards,
Manuel
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Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer
Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch
Dear Wikimedians,
Wikimania is the global, annual conference of the Wikimedia movement,
organised by the Wikimedia community. Organizing team and location are
chosen by a jury in a public bidding process.
Due to the growing requirements and complexity for this growing
conference the Wikimania Committee decided to revise the bidding
timeline to give more time to prepare the conference.
Here it is:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bid_selection_timeline
== Jury ==
The Wikimania Committee is pleased to announce the jury for Wikimania 2016:
Richard Symonds
Stuart Prior
Claudia Garad
Esteban Zarate
Daniel Bryant
Finne Boonen
Ellie Young
== Accepting Bids ==
We invite anyone in our community to submit a proposal for Wikimania
2016 on Meta Wiki:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
Please consult the timeline and Judging Criteria that are posted at:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids
The deadline for bids is November 15, 23:59 UTC. You should setup a
bidding page and contact Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator before
the deadline. She will help you prepare your bid. All bids which have
been confirmed until November 15 will be considered by the jury, others
will be dismissed.
Subsequently there will be a two week period where the community can
comment and offer feedback on the proposal.
In December your team must be available for conference calls with the
jury, after deliberations the host for Wikimania 2016 will be announced
by the end of 2014.
On behalf of the Wikimania Committee with regards,
Manuel
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Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch