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Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimania-jury] The future of Wikimania
by Samuel Klein 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Dear Wikimaniacs, Ellie Young is offering to host a dinner meeting Friday, August 9, from 7-9 pm, to talk about the future of Wikimania, following up on the panel discussion earlier that day on Deror's panel. Notes from this discussion will be added to those from the panel. http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_Growth_and_Future_o… If you are regularly part of Wikimania planning, or part of a past org team, and would be interested in this - please reply to Ellie (cc:ed here) and let her know, and include a few words about what part of Wikimania you've been involved with. Space is limited to 15 people; if there is more interest than that, preference will be given to perennial volunteers and past organizers. Thanks! Sam. On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Ellie Young <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > With regard to the after-hours event, I was going to suggest that any of the following who will > be in Hong Kong attend. (Past chair -- especially those who will be on this committee), the > current coordinator (he may be too busy), Garfield, me, and '14 chairs, ec.) > > I would like to suggest that we go on a evening Harbour Cruise (with dinner/drink) on > Friday, Aug 9, from 7-9 p.m. We are limited to 20 people. This is compliments of the Hong Kong > Tourist Board. If enough of you are available, we could do this. And a followup meeting of course > if we need one. > > Please let me know ASAP if you are amenable/available for this. If not, we can of course meet > sometime before the end of the conference (coordinatoring with the workshop that Deror is hosting of course.) > > Thanks, Ellie > > > > On Jul 19, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Jury - we have a few interested members so far: Deror, Muhammad, >> and James. There is also a full panel talking about the future of >> Wikimania in Hong-Kong: >> http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/The_Growth_and_Future_o… >> >> Ellie has offered to organize an after-hours event for past organizers >> to expand on the topics of this workshop, if there is interest. And I >> am sure that Ellie will have her own thoughts to share by then, having >> spent tha past couple of months seeing Wikimania preparations with her >> new perspective. >> >> Perhaps we can move this discussion to a thread on the wikimania-l >> list about future bids & the future of Wikimania, and similar regional >> events. >> >> Sam. >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Excellent. Thank you, Mohamed and Muhammad. We are still waiting to >>> hear back from 3 of the recent wikimania teams. I second the hope >>> that this will help all future Wikimanias! >>> >>> Warm regards, Sam >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Mohamed Ibrahim >>> <mido.architect(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hello Sam, >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your kind invitation to our team, appreciated. >>>> Muhammad Yahia [Shipmaster] is the one from our core team we're proposing to >>>> join the committee. >>>> Good luck to all and hope this will help future Wikimanias :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 July 2013 23:27, Mohamed Ibrahim <mido.architect(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I will pass the message to the organizing team. >>>>> Thank you for your efforts guys, hope that will help next Wikimanias >>>>> organizing and bidding teams >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10 July 2013 22:21, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Also - please pass this request on to your original organizing team -- >>>>>> to whom future Wikimaniacs are all grateful -- and check with them. >>>>>> Ideally your team would agree on the person to be nominated to >>>>>> represent your team's experience on the committee. But they should >>>>>> at least be informed that we are looking for a representative. >>>>>> >>>>>> For those who want to be involved, but don't have time to commit to >>>>>> being an active committee member, most of the committee's work will be >>>>>> public on meta / in public chats, and all participation will be warmly >>>>>> welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Sam. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Mido, Patricio, Marcin, Deror, and James, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A Wikimania committee is being put together, to appoint next year's >>>>>>> jury and improve knowledge sharing and mentoring for Wikimania teams. >>>>>>> The goal is to include a representative each year from each of the >>>>>>> past 5 conferences. Could you suggest someone from your past >>>>>>> organizing team, including yourself, who might be interested in this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More info: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>> Sam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:16 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-jury] The future of Wikimania >>>>>>> To: Wikimania jury list <wikimania-jury(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, it seems there is significant enough support for this :) That >>>>>>> would mean the members would be: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Someone from or selected by the main organizing team of Wikimania >>>>>>> 2008 (Alexandria) >>>>>>> * Someone from or selected by the main organizing team of Wikimania >>>>>>> 2009 (Buenos Aires) >>>>>>> * Someone from or selected by the main organizing team of Wikimania >>>>>>> 2010 (Gdansk) >>>>>>> * Someone from or selected by the main organizing team of Wikimania >>>>>>> 2011 (Haifa) >>>>>>> * Someone from or selected by the main organizing team of Wikimania >>>>>>> 2012 (Washington DC) >>>>>>> * James Forrester >>>>>>> * Ex officio: Ellie Young >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think it would be fair to use the ' first come, first serve' >>>>>>> principle for these people, so I suggest someone takes it upon >>>>>>> themselves to email the core team of each city, and ask if they could >>>>>>> come to a conclusion among themselves in the next 2 weeks? If they >>>>>>> have no-one from their midst that can/wants to attend, they could also >>>>>>> select someone else of course that they feel represents their >>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Lodewijk >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 >>>>>> 4266 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mido >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mido >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 >> >> >> >> -- >> Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-jury mailing list >> Wikimania-jury(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-jury > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-jury mailing list > Wikimania-jury(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-jury -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266

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Dormitory accommodation - apologies from the organizers
by Deryck Chan 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

Three years ago, Jeromy and I got kicked out from the Wikimania dorms at Danzig a day earlier than what we thought our booking covered. So it is with a lot of irony and embarrassment that we find ourselves causing such confusion with our booking forms. While processing dormitory applications, we realized that the application form mistakenly left the night of 12 August as an option, even though dormitory accommodation is not available on that day. The accommodation details on the Wikimania 2013 wiki and other parts of the registration system are correct. The erroneous option has since been removed. Those who are affected by this bug have been contacted off-list. Alternative accommodation is being arranged for the minority of affected attendees who stated that they need accommodation on the night of 12 August. Deryck Chan Global engagement coordinator, Wikimania 2013

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Airport to Dorms/ Hotels
by Alan C Y Lai 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Dear all, It would be rather expensive to travel to the dorms directly through taxi from the airport, however I can see the appeal for a no-hassle journey. Expect around HKD230 for the ride in moderate traffic and a HKD5 surcharge for every piece of luggage. The budget option is to take the airport bus E22 which costs HKD18 and brings you close to but unfortunately not exactly at the dorms. The bus stop you're getting off is called Kam Shing Road which is a stop on Junction Road, a main road next to the Baptist University. Walking directions from the bus stop can be found on http://goo.gl/maps/vuODx This involves crossing the pedestrian crossings at grade on Junction Road and Renfrew Road, and takes around 8 minutes walking downhill as Timea says. You may familiarise yourself with the walking environment by using Google Street View. There are also other travelling options and the Organisers will write a joining instruction for those who are coming to stay in the dorms. Best regards, Alan Sent on the road "Teemeah ." <teemeah.wikiposta(a)gmail.com> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Wikimania-l mailing list >Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Airport to Dorms/ Hotels
by Alan C Y Lai 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

The first thing you need to know about the taxi system in Hong Kong is that there are three types of taxis in Hong Kong although you'll probably encounter one type of taxi only outside the airport. The Urban Taxis (in red) go to every road in Hong Kong except the southern part of Lantau (the large island south of the airport) where it is only served by the Lantau Taxis (in blue). There's also a type of taxi called the New Territories Taxis (in green) which serve most but not all of the New Territories. For your journey to your accommodation you'd have to choose the Urban Taxis. All taxis have meters and you're obligated to pay the fare on the meter. Please note that surcharges such as tolls and luggage will have to be paid on top of the metered fare and the driver will add them at the end of the journey. Details about the taxi fare can be found here: http://www.td.gov.hk/en/transport_in_hong_kong/public_transport/taxi/taxi_f… There are very clear signs at the airport arrival hall to lead you to the taxi stand, make sure you choose the Urban Taxi line as other types of taxi can't bring you to Kowloon. As I said, further information would be written by the Organisers this week so stay tuned. Best regards, Alan Sent on the road CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Wikimania-l mailing list >Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

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OFFLISTRe: Accommodation confirmation
by Netha Hussain 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Hi Deryck, I am a WMF scholarship holder from India. On the online form, I mentioned my dates requiring accommodation as from 8th to 11th August 2013. Now, I have changed my travel plans, and I will be arriving a day earlier than previously anticipated, i.e on the 7th of August 2013. Can you please help me to change my accommodation booking so that I will be booked in for the dorm from 7th to 11th 2013? Thank you! Sincerely, User: Netha Hussain (Scholarship ID : 620) On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As of now we still have more rooms than people who have signed up for > them. So everyone so far who has requested a dorm room and paid their > conference registration (or is a scholarship recipient) will get a dorm > room. > > Caveat: the accommodation form has previously caused some confusion. The > latest check out date from the dorms is 12 August, not 13 August. > On 17 Jul 2013 10:32, "Matthew Pintar" <matthew.pintar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I registered for accommodations in the dorms over a month ago, but I have >> never received any confirmation about this. With less than three weeks >> until the start of the conference, would it be possible to let me know if I >> will have a place to stay in the dorms or not? The registration system only >> says that my registration has been received. Does this mean I have a place >> to stay? >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*

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Airport to Dorms/ Hotels
by CherianTinu Abraham 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Hi all, With less than 3 weeks to Wikimania, it will be extremely useful if detailed directions to reach the dorms from the Airport are uploaded. http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation It says "Hong Kong International Airport by public transit (1 hour 44 mins)" Local Train / Bus? Train/Bus numbers? How to reach the station from the Airport ? Nearest station for the Dorms? Preferred transport mode? It will be useful especially for those not from this part of world/continent or familiar with the local transport system in the country. Thanks in advance Regards Tinu Cherian N.B. I reach HKG on 8th Aug, 11 AM...So if someone is expected to arrive around that time, please do contact me *offlist *.

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"All discord set aside"
by Deryck Chan 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

Last week, it emerged to the surprise of Wikimania 2013's organizing committee in Hong Kong that the tagline of this year's Wikimania, "Of one mind in pursuit of our dream, all discord set aside" has caused some concern. Those so concerned viewed it as mockery of the FDC process which apparently left WMHK with no funding to continue running itself after Wikimania. Many of you who attended Wikimania 2012 will remember that the tagline was announced at the closing ceremony of Wikimania 2012. Tom Morris even joked on Twitter that "that's the new ArbCom motto".[1] We couldn't foresee the future - we simply know that Wikimedia is full of imperfect people like us so conflicts are abundant. However, given the concern expressed, and the fact that the tagline will appear on the Wikimania 2013 T-shirts, I thought I should explain the tagline fully. The quoted song, Under the Lion Rock, is a soap opera theme tune from the 1980s. This song is often hailed as the unofficial national anthem of Hong Kong. (Lion Rock is an iconic natural rock atop the hilly ridge which divides Kowloon and the New Territories, so "under the Lion Rock" is a metonym for all of Hong Kong.) For attendees from Hong Kong, these lyrics show that this Wikimania embraces Hong Kong fully, and Wikimedians from Hong Kong are just like everyone else. For those who have been involved with Wikimedia for a long time, it is obvious that there is discord all over the place. Wikimania is often seen as the "cream" of Wikimedia, the "bright side" of everything. By picking these lines for our slogan, we want to make the point (which hasn't ever been as prominent in any past Wikimania) that we don't shy away from conflicts. The "conflict" theme runs right through the proposed agenda in our bid; it was even suggested that we invite a banned editor from Hong Kong as keynote speaker. (That fell through. He never felt compelled enough to show up in person.) The lyrics affirm that it is our shared Wikimedia vision which brings us together, in a way that urges us to live with our differences. The outside world often thinks of Wikipedians as a homogenous bunch, slaving away behind computers like robots. We want to say that we actually disagree on lots of things, in ways that similar disputes would roll out in real life. Hong Kong editors tend to be a bit proud of ourselves and quite sceptic towards the current Chinese regime, such that we would go to any length to fight against patriotic mainland Chinese editors and panda-licking American editors. Although we would quickly switch sides and stand with Chinese patriots when it comes to the Diaoyu/Senkaku dispute, and the adamant insistence that "China"!="PRC" and "Taiwan"!="ROC". And we're (surprisingly to most foreigners) rather Falun Gong sceptic too. If people (Wikipediocracy?) insist on thinking that the theme decided a year ago is a dig at the recent FDC furore, then they can put the same into the mouth of any slogan we come up with. What we want to show with these lyrics is that we are connected to all of Hong Kong at heart, and we don't want to shy away from the differences between us in Wikimedia. Full quotation of the chorus of "Under the Lion Rock", as translated by the Hong Kong Government Budget 2002/03:[2] *Of one mind in pursuit of our dream All discord set aside With one heart on the same bright quest Fearless and valiant inside Hand in hand to the ends of the earth Rough terrain no respite Side by side we overcome ills As the Hong Kong story we write.* [1] http://eventifier.co/event/wikimania2012/deryckchan [2] http://www.budget.gov.hk/2002/eframe2.htm With Wiki-Love, Deryck Global Engagement Coordinator, Wikimania 2013

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Shared accomodations
by Ray Saintonge 19 Jul '13

19 Jul '13

Is there anyone coordinating shared accomodations. I am considering a booking at the Best Western Grand Hotel, at roughly CAD 818 for 6 nights. Being able to divide that by two would be a big help. Ray

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 88, Issue 10
by Kudpung กุดผึ้ง 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

Can someone explain the dorm room check-in procedure? Is the desk open 24/7? How is payment to be effected: credit/debit card or cash only? Is there a cafeteria and/or lounge in the building? From when will the transport to and from the conference venue be available and at what times? Sorry if this info has all been previously posted elsewhere. Kudpung On Thursday, July 18, 2013, wrote: > Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to > wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimania-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Accommodation confirmation (Ellie Young) > 2. Re: Accommodation confirmation (Cristian Consonni) > 3. Re: Accommodation confirmation (Charles Gregory) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:57:46 -0700 > From: Ellie Young <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org <javascript:;>> > To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" > <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Accommodation confirmation > Message-ID: <3115634608698015505@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Can you send a mass email to everyone who has paid assuring them of > registration and telling them more details will be forthcoming? > > Thanks > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > As of now we still have more rooms than people who have signed up for them. > So everyone so far who has requested a dorm room and paid their conference > registration (or is a scholarship recipient) will get a dorm room. > > Caveat: the accommodation form has previously caused some confusion. The > latest check out date from the dorms is 12 August, not 13 August. > On 17 Jul 2013 10:32, "Matthew Pintar" <matthew.pintar(a)gmail.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > I registered for accommodations in the dorms over a month ago, but I have > > never received any confirmation about this. With less than three weeks > > until the start of the conference, would it be possible to let me know > if I > > will have a place to stay in the dorms or not? The registration system > only > > says that my registration has been received. Does this mean I have a > place > > to stay? > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >

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Accommodation confirmation
by Matthew Pintar 18 Jul '13

18 Jul '13

I registered for accommodations in the dorms over a month ago, but I have never received any confirmation about this. With less than three weeks until the start of the conference, would it be possible to let me know if I will have a place to stay in the dorms or not? The registration system only says that my registration has been received. Does this mean I have a place to stay?

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