Hi All,
New editors across Indic Wikipedias often face problems while editing for
which need they help. However, most don't know where they can ask questions
or get clarifications as they are usually unfamiliar with village pumps or
mailing lists or even talk pages on basic editing. Many existing editors
want to help new editors and could appreciate a central place where they
can meet and help new editors. India Program has started a pilot to
support the Odia community's help desk,
Chatasabha<http://or.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AC%89%E0%AC%87%E0%AC%95%E0%AC%BF%E0%AC%AA%…>.
(Incidentally, "Chata" means student and "Sabha" means community, in Odia.)
This pilot will build on the community's existing efforts - and seeks to
provide a structured way of designing and running a Help Desk. It takes
learning from English Wikipedia's Tea
House<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Teahouse>as well as other
experiences on Help Desk and similar services.
The Help Desk that is being piloted is user friendly, has guidelines to
provide simple answers to new editors and tries to manage the work load of
existing community members by providing ready answers to frequently asked
questions. The user friendliness of the Help Desk is in the form of being
able to ask questions without getting stuck on Wiki markups as well as
illustrated answers to some questions.
I have put a page on meta which has the pilot
design<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Community_buildi…>.
Eventually, we would like to help other Indic languages build similar Help
Desks. Please do provide your feedback on the talk
page<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Community_b…>
.
Best
--
*Subha*
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!*
Dear all,
Just a gentle reminder for today's IRC on Social Media pilot at 8:00 p.m
(IST). You can join the meetup by clicking on this link:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office . Enter a nickname
and channel name is #wikimedia-office.
Since there is another IRC scheduled at 9:00 p.m for Wiki Loves Monuments
in India, we'll try and wrap this up by sharp 9:00 p.m. We'll be discussing
the progress on the already active social media groups (English and Odia),
explaining strategies to start it on new groups, discussing ways to retain
new editors. For those of you who may not have been following this
discussion, here's the link to the Social Media
pilot<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Social_Media>that
we are running on Facebook right now. Here's the link to the blog
post<https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/06/20/social-media-for-wikipedia-outreach-i…>on
the Social Media pilot.
Since this has been a collaborative process, I would urge all the mentors
(existing editors who are helping out on Facebook) to attend the IRC. Your
inputs and suggestions would be really helpful in deciding the course of
action further.
See you there!
--
Noopur Raval
Dear all,
*Monthly reports/plans:
*Here's a link to the monthly report for May:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Reports/Community_Monthly_Repo…
Here's a link to the monthly plan for June:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Reports/Community_Monthly_Repo…
There was an IRC meeting to discuss community building for Indic
languages. Here is a link to the logs:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/IRC_meeting_2012-06-07
*IRC on 21st June:
*We plan to have an IRC meeting on June 21st at 8:00 p.m on Communications.
The focus will be on the Social media pilot currently running in Assamese,
English and Odia. Do join us using this link: http://webchat.freenode.net/?
on the #wikimedia-office channel.
Apologies for the delay in sending this out. I should have sent this last
week but, unfortunately some things came up. Going forward will ensure the
monthly reports come out by the 10th .
Please do respond with your questions and suggestions.
Thank you,
Best,
--
Noopur Raval
Hey folks,
Hisham <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Hisham> had posted an update
on the community
building<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_…>pilot
Shiju <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shiju> ran as part of India
Program. This pilot was run in Assam but there are tips and pointers and
suggestions from this pilot that are relevant for all Indic communities. As
part of the India Programs IRCs, we propose the first monthly IRC of June
to be on this topic. We'd like to discuss how to build and support
communities by increasing the number of editors, assessing progress on
Wikiprojects as well as fostering possibilities of new collaborations.
Please join us on *7th June* at *09:30 p.m* IST using this link:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office.
Thank you,
Best,
Noopur
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear All
>>
>> I wanted to share with you an update on the work that Shiju<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shiju>[1] is
>> doing on Indic languages<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Indic_Languages>[2]
>> as part of India Program <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program>.[3]
>> A guiding principle for the thinking and efforts of our team is that
>> community building should be the most essential aspect of all the work that
>> we do. In the context of small Indic communities, Shiju has been working
>> to try and identify the various elements that need to come together to
>> foster community building. This update is about the Community Building
>> pilot<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_…>[4] that
>> was run for the Assamese community. For context, community building means
>> different things to different people and in fact there was a very
>> interesting post<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-December/005813.…>[5]
>> that Shiju put out that articulated his thinking on this and, hence, our
>> priorities.
>>
>> The results of these efforts have been outstanding
>>
>> - number of editors on Assamese Wikipedia has increased to 31 in
>> April 2012 (from 18 in December 2011 and just 10 in November 2011.)
>> - number of Wikiprojects increased to 6 (from a situation where there
>> were no reasonably active ones in December 2011- and including 5
>> Wikiprojects independently conceptualised and managed by the community)
>> - average monthly edits on Assamese Wikipedia increased to about 5000
>> in April 2012 from around 3000 in November 2011
>>
>> There are 5 key factors that are responsible for this remarkable growth
>>
>> 1. *Strong communication*. This started with Shiju building personal
>> connections with Assamese editors and then encouraging them to communicate
>> with each other on-wiki, online and in meet--ups and outreach sessions.
>> 2. *Initial push*. Shiju visited Assam in January where he spent
>> time in 2 towns with 7 of the most active community members, who also
>> conducted 2 outreach sessions. This visit has proved to be really useful
>> because it helped to energise the community and also helped to establish a
>> personal relationship between Shiju and these editors (and also, amongst
>> the editors themselves.)
>> 3. *Encouraging collaboration*. Wikiprojects and outreach are really
>> useful to galvanise a community and helped build personal equations. It's
>> wonderful to see the increase in Wikiprojects and
>> 4. *Building capacity & confidence*. In all the work that has been
>> done for the Assamese community, the endeavour has been to build capacity.
>> For instance, support was given to get basic outreach material including
>> FAQs prepared and outreach sessions were guided by Shiju. It's inspiring
>> to see the Assamese community now take things to a whole new level and plan
>> out an ambitious 10th anniversary<http://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/05/16/ten-glorious-years-of-assamese-wikipedi…>
>> .[6]
>> 5. *Healthy environment*. This is the last - but probably the most
>> essential point - and it is something I want to call out because it is what
>> will help or severely hinder the abilities of individual communities
>> realise their dreams and potential. The reason why the Assamese community
>> is making such wonderful steps forward is because there is
>> - a set of editors with the right level of initiative and
>> motivation
>> - a strong sense of co-operation and good spirit amongst the
>> editors
>> - an extremely welcoming approach to new editors
>>
>> None of this would have been possible without the efforts of every single
>> Assamese community members. In the early days when Shiju started off, he
>> was interacting with Bishnu, Dipankar, Gitartha, Jyoti & Prabhakar - who
>> helped organise the first meet-ups and outreach sessions. Thanks to their
>> efforts, a list of thank-yous would now be 31 strong! Thank you and
>> congratulations to all of you!
>>
>> To the Assamese community, I wish you the very best for your 10th
>> anniversary<http://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/05/16/ten-glorious-years-of-assamese-wikipedi…>.[6]
>> There are exciting plans including your photo contest and your article
>> contest and the meet-up and the outreach session. I know that you are
>> doing most of the event largely independently (with Noopur<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Noopur28>[7] providing
>> media assistance for the 10th anniversary and an India Chapter<http://wikimedia.in/>
>> [8] grant<http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Grants/Photo_and_Article_Competition_and_Wiki_Work…>[9] supporting
>> you.) This is the true signs of a community that is coming of age. There
>> are tremendous opportunities in outreach to get new editors, initiatives
>> like your article & photo contests to improve content and in proposed
>> projects like offline to make transformational changes in the community.
>>
>> With regard to the way forward for India Program, the pilot design page<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_…>
>> [4] on meta <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program>[3] has now
>> been updated. The next steps are going to be to see how we can adapt or
>> build on these experiences with other communities, and as we move to other
>> communities, do them in a more scaleable manner.
>>
>> To all community members - across languages across India - if you did
>> want any help in any aspect of community building, please feel free to
>> reach out to Shiju <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shiju>[1] at
>> shiju(a)wikimedia.org. Please also do add comments or ideas or
>> suggestions you might have to the Community Building Pilot's talk page<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Commu…>
>> .[10]
>>
>> *hisham <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hisham>[11]
>> *
>> Notes
>> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Shiju
>> [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Indic_Languages
>> [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program
>> [4]
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Community_…
>> [5]
>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-December/005813.…
>> [6]
>> http://blog.wikimedia.in/2012/05/16/ten-glorious-years-of-assamese-wikipedi…
>> [7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Noopur28
>> [8] http://wikimedia.in/
>> [9]
>> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Grants/Photo_and_Article_Competition_and_Wiki_Work…
>> [10]
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Program/Pilot_Designs/Basic_Commu…
>> [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hisham
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Noopur Raval
>
--
Noopur Raval
Thank you to everyone (around 25 at the last count!) who helped out on Patrika.
I was going through this again and 5 particular stories caught my attention - from the HUGE number of stories in Patrika[0]
a) The 10th anniversary plans of the Assamese community.[1] For a small community, you guys are breath-takingly ambitious and are going about realising your dreams in a wonderfully collaborative manner.
b) The section of "Why I do it" by User:BPositive[2] regarding the Collaboration of the Month at the bottom of the English page [3] is what IT is ALL about. Rock On, Pratik!
c) The Wikiproject Film [4] - quietly started by the Hindi community [5] - is fantastic. Check out the articles that they have been editing and join them on more!
d) To be honest, the Malayalam page [6] just blew my mind... Phew. So much has happened - but the best part for me was the "community interaction" section. That is the surest sign that there is so much more to come.
e) Isn't it amazing that there is actually an "Experiments" section on the Tamil page [7]. How cool is that! The trial of site notices and the use of that information for a planned redesign of the main page to try and attract new users is really interesting - and tips from the Tamil community would be useful across India, and indeed the world.
I did also want to (re)extend the invite from Kannada[8] Wikimedians for fellow lovers of Kannada to join in their Articles Enhancement Project.[9] The planning stage is complete - and the actual work has started but with about 1800 articles to work on, the workload is huge for a very small set of volunteers. If anyone can help them out, I'm sure they'd be most appreciative. (Some tasks can be done be be done quite comfortably by new editors - and some can even be done by non-Kannada speakers! Everyone is welcome!)
Best,
hisham
[0] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05
[1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/as
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BPositive
[3] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/en
[4] http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%…
[5] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/hi
[6] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/ml
[7] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/ta
[8] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05/Community_News/kn
[9] http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B2%B5%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%AA%…
On May 10, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Noopur Raval wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am very happy to tell you all that the third issue of Wikipatrika - the community newsletter is finally out! You can check it here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2012-05
>
> First things first, a humble acknowledgement to all the editors who helped out with this issue of the newsletter. A special thanks to Gitartha (as), Debanjan (bn), Karthik (en and mr), Pratik (en), DS Vyas and Sushant (gu), Siddhartha (hi), Omshivaprakash (kn), Anoop, Kannan, Sreejith, Viswaprabha and Shiju (ml), Abhishek (mr), Rajesh and Saroj (ne), Mkar and Srikant Kedia (or), Abhiram (sa), Logicwiki and Shanmugam (ta), Arjuna and Rahimanuddin (te). In other contributions, thanks to Srikanth R for Commons, Logic, Santhosh, Achal for Free culture news and Tinu for Press news.
> This entire venture could not have been possible without Tanvir's constant support with templates and tweaks. Forgive me if I have missed someone.
>
> So, what has changed from last time? Since all the Wikimeetups are listed on Wikipedia here and on the respective community pages, we've omitted the section on events and meetups. Instead, we've added a section on Featured Interviews which has a GLAM interview this time and the EPOV column (Editor's point of view: INCOTM report).
>
> The idea is to make Wikipatrika a supplement to the mailing lists and village pumps and not replicate the same information in all places. Hopefully, by the next issue, with more featured interviews, insightful pieces from editors and free culture persons we will be able to achieve that.
>
> The way forward:
>
> It's a proud moment to see the amount of activity that all our language communities are involved in. We should definitely strive to make Wikipatrika regular and hopefully get more editors to contribute. This is one space where editors can express the dreams, visions and challenges that their Wikipedia community faces. If you have projects you want to publicize or successful projects that could be started in other communities, this is the space to express your opinion! From next time onward, we will coordinate Patrika on https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-newsletter mailing list. I welcome you all to join right away and we can discuss ideas for features, changing the format and more! :)
>
> Regards,
> Noopur
>
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Dear all,
Here's an article by Medianama on Wikisource in Indic languages (
http://www.medianama.com/2012/05/223-wikipedians-digitizing-out-of-copyrigh…<http://www.medianama.com/2012/05/223-wikipedians-digitizing-out-of-copyrigh…>
). There are a couple of minor misses on the article - but it does refer to
two important aspects about Wikisource:
a) It is a door through which many have entered our projects and
communities (i.e., they start with Wikisource, and indeed Wiktionary,
because it's relatively easier to contribute to, and then they move on to
contribute to other projects too, such as Wikipedia) - especially in Indic
languages.
b) The initiative run by Malayalam community (written about in the article)
to encourage school children to contribute to Wikisource is something that
could be of interest to many other communities. If anyone wants any help
to start conversations with schools in their states, Nitika and I would be
happy to help out. Please reach out to us at noopur(a)wikimedia.org or
nitika(a)wikimedia.org
--
*Wikipedians Digitizing Out-Of-Copyright Texts In Eight Indian
Languages* *-Nikhil
Pahwa
In what is a painstaking process, Wikipedians are digitizing Indian
language, out-of-copyright texts online, trying to address the comparative
paucity of Indic language texts online. Wikisource is a repository of
documents and archived material that serves as a reference source for
Wikipedia, and a means of improving access to information sources. Of the
64 languages Wikisource is available in, 8 are Indian:
Tamil<http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesWikipediaTA.htm>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryTA.htm>),
Malayalam<http://ml.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryML.htm>),
Telugu<http://te.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryTE.htm>),
Kannada<http://kn.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryKN.htm>),
Sanskrit<http://sa.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummarySA.htm>),
Marathi<http://mr.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryMR.htm>),
Bengali<http://bn.wikisource.org/>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryBN.htm>) and
Gujarati<http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/TablesWikipediaGU.htm>(
stats <http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikisource/EN/SummaryGU.htm>). What’s
particularly notable about this digitization is that the texts are being
typed out by volunteers on their own time, one word at a time.*
*How It Began*
*Users were adding bhajans of Mirabai to Wikipedia, but according to
Wikipedia’s policies, recipes, poems and song lyrics belong to Wikibooks or
Wikisource, Noopur Raval, Communications Consultant (India Program) at the
Wikimedia Foundation told MediaNama. One user raised this issue, and
following discussions, it was decided to create a Wikisource for Gujarati.
The first text to be digitized, though, was Rachnatmak Karyakram, a book by
Mahatma Gandhi. The project, involving the digitization of 60 pages, took
six volunteers a week. This was followed by another project, the
digitization of Gandhi’s autobiography, with a group of 13 people typing
out the book over a month.*
*Identification & Prioritization Of Texts For Digitization*
*Selection of text for digitization is entirely community driven: they
decide what is important. Editors put up a notice for the project, and user
participation is sought. For example, the Gujarati Wikisource editors chose
a text by Mahatma Gandhi. The community has an intensive process for
checking if a book is out of copyright, either using the publication date,
and there are mailing lists which discuss when books go out of copyright.
“It’s not as if there is a shortage of texts that are out of copyright,”
Hisham Mundol, Consultant (India Program) at the Wikimedia Foundation said,
adding that “The kind of projects that the community is undertaking (at
present) involves iconic books, where you know the author and the
publisher.”*
*Overcoming Technological Challenges*
*Mundol points out that the process of digitization is brutal, compounded
by the fact that there is no reasonably functional OCR (Optical Character
Recognition) in Indic languages. Texts are thus manually typed out,
followed by a phase of correction and proofreading. In comparison, English
texts can be scanned and uploaded and OCR’ed. The lack of tools points
towards an issue which Wikipedia faces with Indic languages. “If a
MediaWiki tool comes to an English language project, the possibility of
implementing it, the kind of people using it, all of that happens very
quickly, because most of this is written English. It takes time to localize
it. For a bug to be filed for a local language project takes a lot more
time. That gap makes for a lot of difference: how many people (use it), how
easily is the work done, the kind of ease, at every step you need people
who know the language to work with people who know the technology,” says
Raval.*
*Still, the situation with Indic language fonts has improved over the past
year according to Mundol:”The font input problem is no longer the burning
issue. There’s been an increase in the volumes on Indic language scripts,
emails, mobiles. We’re seeing a doubling of readership of our Indic
languages.” One reason for the increase, according to Raval, has been the
implementation of a multiple input tool called Narayam, integrating both
Inscript and transliteration.*
*Reducing Entry Barrier & Involving Schools*
*The Wikisource project is really small in India right now, but it plays an
important role: “It allows people to enter the Wikimedia world of projects
in a much easier manner than editing a Wikipedia article. Wikisource is
much more accessible,” Mundol says.*
*In Kerala, community members involved schools in the process of
digitizing Ramchandra
Vilasam. ”As a part of the 7th or 8th standard, the school curriculum
encourages typing in Malayalam. So the community members work with the
teacher, and instead of 40 students typing out the same two pages that they
would have done in a class assignment, they split a book between them, and
each types out a separate page. It’s great because if everyone gave in the
same page, it would go to the recycle bin quite promptly,” Mundol said,
adding that “We are looking at involving more schools, and discussions are
on with Malayalam schools and colleges.”*
*The Culture Of Knowledge & The Importance Of Community For Wikimedia*
*“It’s interesting to see how a culture develops, not just editors and
technology, but the whole interaction that builds up the identity of a
community,” Raval says. “When Gujarati Wikisource or Marathi Wikisource
comes to your mind, you’re actually thinking of a bunch of people you don’t
necessarily know, and their attitudes towards knowledge, and why they would
go out of their way, spend hours, just to make sure that the knowledge that
they think is important in a language should survive and be digitized, and
they’ll go through the pain to make it available.” While each project has
an individual taking responsibility as a project manager, and a group gets
created around each project, since it is volunteer work, whenever someone
has exams or has other work, someone else compensates.*
*The focus on fostering an involved community often determines Wikimedia’s
approach: “The temptation could be to take a bunch of the 4 million
articles on the English Wikipedia, and run it through a translator. Very
quickly, you can build a huge content base (in Indic languages), but it
does nothing for that community. We’ve seen that it not only does no good,
it does a great deal of harm because they no longer feel that this is
actually their project. It’s about ‘I wrote this paragraph’, or ‘I
contributed to this article’,” Mundol says. “Anything that Wikimedia does,
we encourage the participation of an individual member as much much more
important than anything else because community members edit, contribute,
and no technology solution can get you that.”*
Best,
Noopur
--
Noopur Raval
