Well, the discussion at the AfD is ongoing and focuses on this particular
article. I think there is a broader issue, though, because this isn't the
first time someone has nominated a contested article for deletion based on
"IAR for the good of the project." I'm not sure where the most centralised
place to discuss the broader issue would be - WT:BLP? WT:AFD? The mailing
list makes sense as a place to involve interested folks who may not watch
those pages.
Nathan
On 4/19/08, Jon <scream(a)datascreamer.com> wrote:
Nathan wrote:
There is yet another deletion debate ongoing
about a BLP article, but I
think this is by far the highest profile BLP anyone has tried to delete
simply because the subject is upset about the content. So far, the
hyperbole
has focused on how Wikipedia is theoretically
causing harm to this
individual. I can't see it. This is a high profile guy who seems to
consistently angle for an ever higher profile, with a great deal of
coverage
in the press and a very significant talkpage
presence aimed entirely at
keeping the article in line with the BLP policy. If we don't report
anything
that hasn't already been written by a few
very mainstream newspapers,
how
are we causing harm? All of the information is
readily available, and
anyone
who searches for his name will find both the
Wikipedia article and every
critical article every written about him.
So he's a very wealthy lawyer and today he posted a document that
purports
to be a letter to the WMF auditing firm, and the
letter claims that he
has
filed cases against a group of editors, the
individual members of the
Board,
Wikimedia Foundation and even Wikia. Let me ask,
then. No one who has
been
editing the article is unaware of the risk in
this case, so for whose
benefit do we capitulate to his threats? Do we really want to get in the
habit of deleting articles of fairly famous individuals based on a
threat?
You'll note that the current complaint is
pretty baseless. He was happy
with
the article a few weeks back, and hardly a single
thing has changed
about it
since then. It is only the risk of having a group
of editors on the page
who
aim to create a truly representative article that
has caused him to step
up
the pace of intimidation. I think that is what we
ought to want, but
apparently others disagree. So if there is a new consensus about this,
I'd
like to see someone add it to WP:BLP.
Nathan
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Perhaps we should centralize this comment/discussion on the AFD instead
of decentralizing it to the discussion AND list. Would you consider
duplicating your comment there? It makes sense, I think it would add to
the discussion.
Warmly,
Jon
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